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Captains, TorqueSim and X-Aviation are proud to announce the upcoming release of the Take Command! CitationJet 525 for X-Plane 12! This aircraft has been crafted with extreme precision, cutting-edge technologies, passionate attention to detail, and the latest features X-Plane has to offer to deliver an unparalleled simulation experience for virtual pilots. Development on this product started over 5 years ago, and we’re excited to be approaching project completion. We will share more details about the release soon. History of TorqueSim TorqueSim began as a collaboration between Steaven McKenzie and Cooper LeComp with the release of the TorqueSim Pocket Rocket in 2019. Since then, they've expanded their fleet, grown the team, and introduced a variety of high-quality aircraft. A significant milestone was when Ulrich joined as the key developer behind the acclaimed Islander BN-2B and Turbine Islander BN-2T aircraft. Building on that success, they launched their flagship product—the Take Command! SR22 Series, in partnership with RealSimGear. This product line has led to the development of several notable variations, including the SR20 and Entegra-equipped models, as well as advanced professional iterations like the G6 and the all-new G7. The SR Series marked their entry into the professional market, where their aircraft are now trusted by hundreds of professional customers worldwide for flight training, education, and recurrence programs. Now, TorqueSim is thrilled to return to its roots with the introduction of a unique and meticulously developed aircraft that we think you’re going to love. About Take Command! The X-Aviation Take Command! branding represents the very best of flight simulation immersion, and assures you this product is one of the most sophisticated, study sim level aircraft available for X-Plane! Real world pilots assist in the development and testing of these products, and real world procedures are followed. It tells you these products are unlike any other product you've seen outside of the ever growing X-Aviation catalog! Simulate what the real pilots do on these aircraft daily! About the CitationJet The CitationJet is notoriously one of the most confusingly named product lines in aviation. The Model 525 has had many different variants through the years and features a long lineage of aircraft. This model is the original CitationJet (model 525), dating back to the early 1990s. This plane is a pilot’s airplane—remarkably responsive, highly performant, and a joy to fly, all while being fully certified for single-pilot operation. A range of approximately 1500 nautical miles means you can fly a wide variety of routes with this aircraft. Some great routes include Boeing Field (KBFI) to Dallas Love Field (KDAL), Teterboro (KTEB) to Denver (KDEN), or Nice (LFMN) to Madeira (LPMA). Next Level Modeling, Texturing, and Sound Every detail of the Citation 525 has been painstakingly recreated to the highest standards of quality. We’ll let the screenshots speak for themselves. We’ll also share our custom sound pack in upcoming videos. Custom Avionics This aircraft features avionics from one of the most unique eras of aircraft panels. The semi-glass cockpit simultaneously has great character and utility, while offering a vastly different flying experience. Fully custom Honeywell ED600 EADI/EHSI pilot instruments Rising runway Single-cue / Cross pointer flight director HSI mode, Arc mode, and Map mode on the EHSI. Map mode, when tied to the UNS1 source for navigation, provides an indication of your upcoming flight path. When tied to NAV radios tuned to VORs, it provides a unique short-range navigation map. Many different navigation sources! All configurations feature the fabulous UNS1 FMS created by Amy Parent. This flight management system is modeled faithfully and provides a unique type of FMS, especially in comparison to what is commonly seen in traditional airliners. The standard configuration, alongside the UNS1, adds the CNI 5000 radio stack equipped with dual COM and NAV radios, an ADF receiver, as well as dual transponders. Additionally, it can be flown with dual X-Plane GNS530s, replacing the CNI 5000. These two GPSs are then paired alongside dualGTX 327 transponders to provide a thorough navigation solution. We also have compatibility with third-party GTN750 navigators for those that want to fly with the latest navigation systems! Custom autopilot system, simulating the variety of unique operational modes of the autopilot. Approach indexer for angle-of-attack reference Davtron chronometer Custom gyros, with various behaviors and failover modes Advanced Systems Depth We’ll go more in depth with the system descriptions in a future post as we get closer to release. Here is an initial overview of the many custom systems we have included. The TorqueSim CitationJet has a fully-custom electrical system featuring the complete array of circuit breakers, detailed modeling of the starter-generators, bus distribution systems, and the electrical consumers themselves. Pull a breaker and see the ramifications and behaviors or disconnect the battery in the cargo compartment. Even the aft breaker panel is modeled. A custom fuel system with boost pumps, transfer valves, tanks, and more is also included.. The engine interface is highly customized to include accurate engine parameters, starter logic, igniters, thrust attenuators, both turbine and fan syncing, gauge behaviors, and more. We have also customized the hydraulics systems, including gear and brake logic. The aircraft’s unique and intricate flight controls, including the ground flap 60° position, speedbrakes, trims, and control lock, have also been modeled. The fully custom pneumatic system affects everything from pressurization to climate and ice protection. From outflow valves to the pressurization controller, it's modeled. High-Fidelity Flight Model The flight model of the Citation 525 has been refined and optimized specifically for X-Plane 12, ensuring an authentic flying experience. Every aspect of the aircraft’s performance has been carefully tuned to replicate the real-world counterpart, from precise takeoff and landing speeds to accurate fuel burn rates. Custom airfoils further aid the flight dynamics, providing a true-to-life feel in every phase of flight. The flight dynamics have been fine-tuned to match the unique handling characteristics of the Citation 525. We'll see you all again real soon for another update!

I suppose I should demonstrate some form of life. I'll have to get with Jan on that as our radar (best I recall) had most of the features of the real thing. As far as "coming out soon", here's what I'll say....and this is overdue for sure....and I'm not going to convince anyone to believe me or not on the timing. It will get looked at and updated at some point. As sure as this is my 20th year actively involved in X-Plane work, it will continue to be so. A year and a half ago, things changed for me when Laminar announced its new store initiative in Montreal. I took a job with Laminar to completely rewrite its developer documentation. This was a "look to the future" for both myself and X-Plane, at the cost of 'now'. Laminar are looking to embrace a future generation of developers and we need to have better learning materials to engage this generation to develop for X-Plane, so I'm that guy....thats for Laminar. For myself, I needed more stability and a cushion, as the add-on market for X-Plane is still too thin to have any kind of long term security. Taking on this work with Laminar has allowed me to close out all other obligations and stay in the X-Plane ecosystem for the foreseeable future. The 'problem' for my customers and X-Aviation thus far, is that the initial phase or work to revamp and deploy the documentation was/is huge. New developer web site, new manual formats, a new, interactive PlaneMaker manual, lots and lots of rewriting, new illustrations...etc....and that has taken a good while to develop and received all my focus to get to what we call the "initial deployment" of the docs out the door. That initial deploy is not terribly far off. After the initial deployment, I will settle into a more regular time schedule that will afford me the time to get back to my own work. It has been my effort over the last year to try and achieve a point where I can only work on X-Plane endeavors between now and my retirment......and there have been personal hurdles along the way that are neither anyone's concern or business, but real to me just the same. It is my intention to crack open the MU2 and 737 again in early October, to resume work on my 'X-Aviation' things. I have discussed this with X-Aviation also. Between now and then I am focused on getting an initial deployment of the new docs out the door for Laminar. We will look at the IXEG radar early on for sure. I want to remain developing for X-Plane fully and it is my firm belief that this path i've taken was the required path to do so, and I apologize for the silence and delays. -tkyler

Captains, We hope you are as excited about the Take Command! TorqueSim CitationJet 525 as we are! We are in the home stretch of finishing up the final features and testing, and are aiming to get this product released very soon. Let’s take some time and dig into the unique and detailed avionics featured in this aircraft. The key centerpiece of the aircraft is the Honeywell avionics system including the ED-600 EFIS (Electronic Flight Instrument System) displays: the EADI (Electronic Attitude Director Indicator) and EHSI (Electronic Horizontal Situation Indicator). These are the two primary displays on the captain’s side of the panel. These displays are controlled by the DC-81X display controller located below the EHSI. To the right of the EADI is the Honeywell AM-250 altimeter, an advanced RVSM-capable altimeter. The aircraft’s Honeywell autopilot consists of the mode selector located above the EADI and the control panel located on the center pedestal. The EADI features many unique attributes: Standard attitude sphere for indicating pitch and roll, capable of being driven by the reversionary attitude gyro “ATT2” Selectable single cue and cross pointer flight director command cues Fast/Slow angle of attack display for dialing in your perfect approach Rising runway indication for enhanced situational awareness Radio altimeter readout Decision height setting and alerting Flight director mode indications and attribute displays Integrated marker beacon indicators On approaches, glideslope and expanded localizer display. The expanded localizer display replaces the rate-of-turn indication and instead shows a high-sensitivity localizer deflection indication, 7.5x the amplification to provide precision tuning and awareness of aircraft location within the center of the localizer. The EHSI also has many distinctive behaviors and features: Standard HSI mode, with course and deviation, providing a familiar experience to most pilots Arc HSI mode, which expands the HSI view to show a smaller range of angles ahead, but with enlarged indications for easier viewing Map viewing mode, with multiple distinct viewing options: When tuned to a NAV radio, and the selected NAV radio is receiving an appropriate VOR, the map will enter SRN (short range navigation) mode, where it utilizes DME and bearing values to generate a map based on received signals. This provides for much clearer flying behaviors when using VOR navigation. Underneath the map, a standard horizontal deviation indicator is displayed to reinforce what you are seeing on the map. When set to the UNS1 FMS source, it displays the current flight plan ahead of the aircraft, including waypoint names, turns, arcs, and holds. This is the airliner-esque navigation display you may be familiar with from larger aircraft and other modern GA avionics. Bearing pointers from NAV1/NAV2/ADF1/ADF2/FMS sources Heading bug connected to the autopilot Glideslope indication shown when appropriate DME display Interchangeable ground speed, time-to-go, and elapsed time display The Honeywell autopilot is driven by a fully-custom flight director with various modes: Heading hold mode, where the current heading is flown. In this mode, the aircraft can be controlled in a constant-bank turn using the turn knob on the pedestal autopilot control panel. Pitch hold mode, where the aircraft’s pitch attitude can be modified through the pitch knob on the autopilot control panel. Heading select mode, a classic autopilot control mode where the system flies the specified magnetic heading, as set on the autopilot control panel and displayed on the EHSI. NAV mode, where the autopilot can follow the various NAV sources, as fed to the EHSI APR mode, where the autopilot can also follow a glideslope (or emulated glideslope provided by an installed GPS unit, if equipped -- more on that later) Backcourse mode, for following a localizer outbound with reverse-deflections Altitude select and hold modes, with a preselector set via the autopilot control panel Vertical speed and indicated airspeed modes where you can specify the climb rate or speed via the knob on the autopilot control panel A novel and distinctive part of this aircraft is the wide range of navigation systems that can be used. We’ve spent an immense amount of time building out these integrations to ensure a wide range of flying types and needs are met. The Universal UNS-1 Flight Management System is located on the aircraft’s center pedestal and is present in all configurations. The UNS-1 can always drive the EHSI and flight director via the “FMS” mode on the display controller. Flight Plan Management: Create, edit, and store complex flight plans with multiple waypoints, including support for airways and terminal procedures. Advanced Navigation: Use direct-to, pseudo-VOR, holding patterns and lateral offsets Updatable database: Utilizes the X-Plane 12 navigation database, which can be updated via Navigraph. Performance Monitoring: Tracks fuel usage, estimated time en route, and wind impact for enhanced situational awareness. Integration with EHSI: Seamlessly drives navigation displays with real-time depiction of waypoints, flight plan legs, and guidance cues. The Standard Config: Honeywell CNI-5000 Integrated Avionics System. This is the classic radio assortment shipped with the aircraft. This features 2 COM radios, 2 NAV radios, an ADF receiver, as well as dual transponders with an active selection switch. Dual X-Plane GNS530: Two GNS units are mounted on the panel, replacing the CNI-5000. These navigators add a key capability to the aircraft: Vertical guidance on RNAV approaches. These units drive the EHSI/FD via the NAV1/NAV2 channel for the left and right GNS, respectively. This means you can utilize the FMS and both GNS radios at the same time, while also having access to the NAV radios. Switching the output of the GNS between GPS and the NAV radio is accomplished using the “VLOC” button on the navigator. With this configuration, two GTX 327 transponders are added to the panel. Dual GTN750Xi: We are thrilled to announce full integration with the upcoming TDS Sim GTNXi for X-Plane! (sold separately, Windows only) This will be coming in the next few months. We have been working with TDS on integrating their GTN750Xi navigator into the aircraft and we think that you’ll love it. Enjoy the feature set and capabilities of the GTN750Xi system, with many new features for the X-Plane market. A massive addition of this system is updatable navigation data and charts through Navigraph! The CJ525 is equipped with dual GTN750Xi navigators in this configuration, with advanced RNAV approach capabilities including vertical guidance. Simulated is the GTN Xi series (V20.x) including many enhancements from the original GTNs including higher resolution maps, faster overall usage, SmartGlide, etc Worldwide charts, fully integrated and geo-referenced into the GTNXi, from Navigraph RealSimGear hardware support For more information and to follow TDS’s progress, you can follow them directly on discord or their website. RealityXP GTN750 and GNS530: (sold separately, Windows only). The aircraft can be equipped with dual GTN750s or dual GNS530s. These tie into our systems in a similar manner as described above using the RXP GPS options. Some additional equipped avionics systems include: An approach indexer display mounted on the center column of the windshield. This system aids in flying stable approaches with the optimal angle of attack indicated as well as too fast / too slow indications. This system was modeled with custom lighting to ensure a vivid and beautiful effect, especially at night. Dual DMEs with hold capability, with distance, speed and time read-outs Copilot KI525A HSI with free/slaved gyro Pilot side dual RMI with NAV/ADF selections Pilot side course deviation indicator for the NAV1 primary source Davtron M877 Chronometer with GMT, LT (local time), ET (elapsed time), and FT (flight time) We hope this post helped illustrate how the Take Command! TorqueSim CitationJet 525 offers a remarkable set of unique and detailed avionics to provide an immersive flying experience. Every system, from the Honeywell EFIS displays to the advanced navigation configurations, has been meticulously crafted to provide both realism and versatility for pilots of all skill levels. Whether you prefer flying with traditional VOR navigation or leveraging the latest FMS and GPS integrations, this aircraft is designed to deliver precision, performance, and depth. We can’t wait for you to experience the innovation and passion poured into this project -- more to be shared soon! Have a Happy Thanksgiving holiday weekend!

Hi @imemyself it has been a while for sure and a valid question and I have no real excuse. The last year has very much been a "foundational stabilization" year. I'm getting close enough to retirement to start eyeballing these next 6 years and how to best navigate them after the Covid ripples upended several things in my life. A year ago this time I had an opportunity with Laminar once again and I took it....the previous years since Covid were a bit rocky and I had some catching up to do, which I have mostly done over the last 12 months. I've spent sporadic moments in the year working on the 737 FMOD conversion and we're in final sound testing on that. The MU2 has taken a back seat during this time. I have recently integrated X-Plane's new weather radar and most of the known issues are fixed, which you guys won't see till 12.4 or 12.5 perhaps, so I have been chipping on it. An update absolutely will be available and it is still maintained and will be for years to come I suspect. I took the gig with Laminar to "stay in the X-Plane ecosphere" and some important personal things have transpired this year that should clear the way for more XP work. I know that's pretty hollow talk considering the last year, but I'll just wrap up by saying there are no plans for me to abandon the MU2 and I get reminded about it frequently...so the pressure is on and felt.

One of my favorite combinations of aircraft: classic cockpit, optional GTN/GNS units to suit anyone's taste, all packaged in a reasonably fast jet to do fun flights around the country. Can't wait to share it with the world!

Well, after strugling a lot with differente solutions, i decided to do myself an excel sheet to make the job. I'm not a native speaker, so i did it like i could. Do your best to use it. W&B CL650.xlsx

Sorry I didn't see this thread until now, but when the TDS was first released for XP I made this plugin that tricks the MU-2 into thinking RXP is present and loads the TDS. Fake RXP.zip

We'll be integrating the new API for weather radar once X-Plane finalizes that API and releases the feature. It seems to be a very promising new feature from X-Plane!

Captains, We are thrilled to announce that on Saturday, December 14th, at 12:00 PM Eastern Standard Time (17:00 Zulu Time), the Take Command! CitationJet 525 for X-Plane 12 will be available for purchase. This release marks the culmination of over five years of meticulous development, bringing you an unparalleled flight simulation experience. The CitationJet 525 has been crafted with extreme precision, utilizing cutting-edge technologies and a passionate attention to detail. From the fully custom Honeywell avionics suite to the advanced systems depth, every aspect of this aircraft has been designed to replicate the real-world flying experience. Whether you’re a seasoned pilot or a flight simulation enthusiast, the CitationJet 525 carries on the growing Take Command! product line and provides you an immersive journey into the skies. Join us as we take flight with this remarkable aircraft. Prepare to explore the skies with a simulation that continues TorqueSim's standards in realism and immersion. We can’t wait for you to experience the passion poured into this project. Mark your calendars for December 14th at noon EST (17:00 Zulu) and be among the first to pilot the Take Command! CitationJet 525. Want to learn more?... Product Page Live Streams Initial Announcement Avionics Overview

As much as I love the Challenger, I needed a smaller, simpler jet to just hop in and go. And it's an 80s Citation. Can't be happier.

Hi at all. I have read that TDS is starting the beta of this product (differently from the RXP, it's possible to update AIRAC with Navigraph), and its will be release soon. I hope in an update of the MU-2 with this integration

You can create these using: Along-track offset distance - IDENT/(+-)DIST[/NAME] - offset plus or minus DIST from IDENT which is currently in the flight plan Place Bearing Distance - IDENTBRG/DIST[/NAME] - point defined by a distance along a radial from a place Place Bearing / Place Bearing - IDENTBRG/IDENTBRG[/NAME] - point defined by the intersection of two radials from two places LAT/LON coordinates. This can be done with Degrees Decimal Minutes, or shorthand as per the usual shorthand rules. There is some way you can do it using the joystick on the CCP and selecting the point on the MFD map, but I'm not entirely sure how you go about doing that. The Places in question do not have to be VORs, they can be any arbitrary point, including previously defined custom waypoints - I've created downwind, base, and final legs for visual approaches with VNAV planning using this feature. For your example specifically I'd use place bearing/distance. As far as I remember, just enter this in the scratchpad: IDENTBRG/DIST[/NAME] So in your example, if the VOR was ATY, you'd enter "ATY225/50" which would give you a waypoint 50nm southwest of ATY. If you added an extra trailing slash you could input a name for that waypoint as well. Then, once that's in the scratchpad, press the LSK next to where you want to insert it, and then add your altitude restriction on the right side as normal!

Yes - we're looking into adding it!

I’m a bit confused by your post, as the timeline doesn’t quite align. At the time of your purchase, there was no talk of an upgrade for a version of the simulator that didn’t yet exist, as we developers were not aware of X-Plane 12 at that point either. You purchased it two years before we ever mentioned a free upgrade to new purchasers. It is not possible for you to have "bought this aircraft because it included an upgrade to XP12." We'll post news when we're ready. I believe we're getting to a point of sooner than later.

Pils: Quite right. For whomever it might help, I first upgraded to the final ver of Monterey (macOS 12). No discernible improvement in the problems discussed above. Then upgraded to the final ver of Ventura (macOS 13, the highest OS my computer can handle). As far as I have explored so far, everything appears to be working as it should. Which is great, cuz I REALLY wanted to like this plane.

I just doublechecked, indeed the light in the forward entry area does NOT turn off when the cockpit door closes and the camera is in the cockpit area - I will talk to Tom and see if we want to implement this (again). Thanks for the headsup, @manguras!

Nice work! I'm really looking forward to the release. I fly the CL650, but the Citationjet-525 model is what I lacked for short-range jet flights. Good luck!

I used to fly these with the classic radio suite, No GPS, an outdated database in the FMC, a paper chart on my lap and the owner serving me pepsi and peanuts. Good old days. Will buy this for sure! Nice work!

Crossfill is something TDS is investigating adding per our discussions with them. I think this will likely be a v1.x feature by them if they can get it going.

Flying the SR-22 is a unique model! I'm really looking forward to the CitationJet 525! I am sure that the model will turn out to be a masterpiece in the world of simulators.

I don't really want to sound like a broken record, but it is getting worked on. We've been working on the 650 and the TBM, with Saso trying to get as much of the 650 updates done as possible for V1.8. Now that 1.8 is out, we can both dedicate more time to the TBM, and finally get that wrapped up as quickly as possible.

Man, its a shame this project never materialized into what it was supposed to become. I used to love flying the ixeg in xp11 and had high hopes it would be completed. Every now and then I check back on this forum to see if anything has changed and unfortunately still nothing. Xp12 is looking seriously good these days, I just wish the ixeg 737 was up to par because it has huge potential.

If you hear nothing from us, assume that the project is not abandoned but no work has been done on it that would warrant us sharing any progress info. If we abandon the project, we will announce this here - so if we don´t - you know it´s not abandoned.

First time I’ve tried it in XP12. Plane is ok for me in XP 12.2 beta 6. I have yet to do a long flight but I’ll report back, but so far sounds are great, controls are great, loading/fuel worlds, RXP 530 works. Lighting seems perfect so far. I’ll try some other loacations. Only things that seem amiss are to do with the aircon and possibly the de-icing but I haven’t used it in years so that might just be me. I must say, given that it is absolutely flyable and without literally any graphical glitches for me in 12.2, I cannot for the life of me understand why it hasn’t been updated. Like, how long would it reasonably take to slap a compatibility update on this thing? I’d pay for it. Others would also pay if this thread is anything to go by. It’s a unique plane in X-Plane both aesthetically and in terms of the airlines that still use it and it genuinely sucks that we still don’t have it ‘officially’. Thanks *oh I guess technically the windshield is ‘dirty’ or has permanent rain drops on it but that’s minor to the point that I don’t even know if I can be bothered fixing it.

Sure it can. And it will until the 737 is where we want it.

These are for Friction Control for the Throttle and Condition Levers. They are working. Move them full forward with the Mouse and you can't move the Levers anymore.

Discover the precision and realism of the Take Command! CitationJet 525 by TorqueSim, a new benchmark in medium-size business jet simulation for X-Plane 12. With several years of development, it offers study-level systems, unmatched flight dynamics, and multiple avionics configurations, including GTN bezels ready for use with third party add-ons such as the TDS GTN750Xi or RealityXP suite! *sold separately Dive into the details and experience the pinnacle of technical fidelity for serious simmers. Enjoy! Want to learn more about this project? See the following topics below!

Are we getting this in the next week or two?

Great stuff guys, she sure is a beauty.

Looking forward to it, Coop! One question: What’s the plan for the Bendix Wx display?

I've enjoyed the raw sound test—now I can't wait to fire it up and make some noise that might just get me banned from the runway!

We deeply value your enthusiasm for our upcoming project and understand the eagerness for updates. We want to assure you that we’re committed to sharing news when we feel we have meaningful and exciting progress to report - something worth your time and interest. Each development team has its own approach, and for us, this process is a labor of love. Great things take time, and ensuring the highest quality often requires patience. Over the years, we’ve learned from experience (both ours and others) that sharing tentative dates or updates prematurely often leads to misunderstandings and misplaced expectations. For this reason, we’ve adopted a more measured approach, focusing on progress behind the scenes until we’re closer to the finish line. We recognize this approach may not align with everyone’s preference for frequent updates, but we believe it’s the best way to ensure we deliver a product we’re proud of, without the pressure that can sometimes detract from creativity and quality. Rest assured, updates will come, but only when the time is right and not out of external pressure, and because we’re confident we have something truly worthwhile to share. We appreciate your patience and understanding as we continue to work diligently. Thank you for your support and trust in what we’re building. The TBM is a fun plane, and we're looking forward to the finish line.

Sorry its not getting updated as fast as any of us would like. I wake up every day and have to make decisions about what to work on and balance my requirements against the customers. They never align for everybody and never will. Its not abandoned, it will get updated and updates will be free for many many years to come. -TK

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Any news on this beauty?

Still things to come, and you're right, X-Plane 12 is looking great!

It's not dead at all!. Before I say this, a bit of disclosure. I AM NOT involved with IXEG, and I will not discuss or mention details/plans I will let official channels do so. I met Tom at FSExpo this past year in PVD and had a good hour long discussion with him about (mostly) the 737 we all love. NO IT'S NOT DEAD. He discussed details with me that if he wishes to share one day he can, but it's not my story to tell. But it's a VERY interesting story at that!. You folks would not believe the dark side of developing that happens. Like many of you, I too have been frustrated with the 737, but after talking to Tom at Expo, I can say I heard it from the horses mouth, THE 737 IS STILL BEING WORKED ON!!! Again I won't discuss what Tom discussed with me about what's being worked on. ALso @tkyler I would like to thank you again for you time at expo, was an absolute pleasure meeting and talking!

View File House Livery Hot Start Challenger 650 This is a livery for the Hot Start Challenger 650, inspired by the house livery displayed on Bombardier's website right now. To install, extract the zip file into the "liveries" folder. You can supply your own registration, N650CL is not printed on the cowlings. If you enjoy my work, consider supporting me on Patreon to cover some of the horrendous Adobe-costs ;). Submitter pilotdeviation Submitted 05/10/2025 Category Hot Start Challenger 650  

There are changes in the 12.2.0 that I will include in the update. So expect release close to when the new X-Plane version become final.

I use it regularly in XP12. Weight and Balance is Fuel only, no Passenger or Cargo. There are a few Bugs (no Lights for the selected COM, Right Push Button on G500 Inop) that annoy me but Flight Performance seems pretty close within the Limits of the SIM. I use the Classic Cockpit Version without the Radar. I hope there will be a Fix. Maybe one Reason is the Status of XP12 with it's fast changes in short Time that could be a Nightmare if you are the one and only Developer for a Project. Latest announcement from the Developer was, that he was working on this and some Performance Updates. But that he needs Time for Testing and his Time is limited because of other Projects. But a short sign of Life would be nice. And maybe a small Fix for the COM Lights and the Push Button.

Spoken like someone who really knows what they're talking about!

I just finished my second flight in this aircraft, and it is top notch. An add-on of this caliber deserves a manual, hope to see one soon! Would also love to see some performance charts for take-off, climb etc. I've been guessing on the climb speed. I've heard this plane can be slow to get up to altitude IRL (and seems so in the sim) so it would be nice to know how to squeeze out as much performance as efficiently as I can. I am impressed with how well it hand flies. I haven't quite figured out the approach function on the Autopilot yet, so I had to take control manually and it was a joy to fly in. One final thing I wanted to note that I think is really cool is the spool up time when adjusting thrust. It's not instant. You have to be on top of speed management and anticipate. Thanks for making this aircraft!

Many thanks for your answer. I’ll be monitoring that ! In the meantime I wish you all the best for your C525 release. Charles

Around what era did MikeL/RIM/BB have a Challenger? Now I’m curious!

http://www.b737.org.uk/pilotnotes.htm

Loving it!

Hey, for some reason, the struts of the IXEG are extremly "springy" in XP12. You can easily fix that by open the .acf file in planemaker, then go to "Standard" -> "Landing Gear" -> "constants" and uncheck both "use manual gear deflections" and "use manual damping constants". All constants shown will disappear and set to values guessed by planemaker. Then, of course, save the changes to the .acf file (make a backup first!). When you check the boxes again, the guessed values of planemaker will apear and you can play with them. Further reduce the damping constant of the nose gear to your liking.

It's nice to see how your not fully functioning FMC is a feature of a product that doesn't need updates because it's already perfect. You haven't had any improvements or bug fixes in a very long time, and you are hiding your head in the sand, saying it's perfect already because you don't know what you're doing. It's just sad. I am sure all the people on the internet complaining about the same problems are just people who do not know what we are doing because the 737-300 is so complicated we just can't get it: my god, the ego on you. It has bugs. That's just true whether you like it or not. I own thousands of dollars of payware, and a developer who does not keep up on updates has never been a sign of a product that doesn't need updates but a developer who abandons their products. Do better.

Good afternoon, Is there any ETA for the next update? It’s been 9 months since the release, and it seems like the company is dead. This forum seems dead too... no one says anything, no one from the team speaks. Sorry, but this is quite frustrating and a bit infuriating as well. The 733 is full of problems in VNAV, FMC, etc. Some flights are satisfactory and the aircraft does its job perfectly, but in others (and these others are the vast majority) the aircraft simply does what it wants. Most of the time, it’s almost impossible to control the speed of the plane and get it on the ideal glide slope during final approach. Not to mention the aircraft sounds, which are terrible, and it’s almost impossible to adjust the volume of each thing (this is surreal). It’s not possible that in 9 months there hasn’t been anything to release or at least some information from the IXEG team. Practically all the aircraft manufacturers for X-Plane have already released several updates fixing numerous bugs, and IXEG remains with the same aircraft since the day of release. This wouldn’t even be a problem if at least the company gave some sort of explanation to those who bought the aircraft (which is far from being a cheap addon). Best regards and peace.

Well, to be fair, I said that I don't know if I unsubscribed or not. But that is not really the point, though you guys do seem a bit eager to penalize customers for doing so. Your policies are your choice of course, but they seem short-sighted, and out of step with most of the software industry these days. Few people are more enthusiastic about supporting small developers than I am, and I have put untold $$$$ toward my belief that those who provide good value should be rewarded, including a fair amount to X-Aviation. Rarely if ever do I balk at or whine about their pricing structure. But I do not enjoy paying full price for the same product twice, especially given the first one was never really finished to its promised potential. If X-Aviation had said, "well the $15 promotion is over, but we do have an ongoing upgrade price of say, $40" I would not have hesitated - I happily pay upgrade prices all day long. This is what most of the industry does, because they're looking at the bigger picture, and truly care about rewarding and retaining customer loyalty. I used to really like X-Aviation (as demonstrated by repeated purchases), but this is leaving a real sour taste for me. Again you polices are your choice, but I'm not sure you can really know the true cost long-term of this philosophy.