avantime Posted November 23, 2022 Report Posted November 23, 2022 Great news, I hope it's getting along fine and we'll be flying it in XP12 soon. And I'm looking forward to paying for it and the (hopefully) fully-featured, fully-working 737 Classic. Please just finish it in a timely manner so we can open our wallets. For me money isn't a problem, I'll just go work some more and earn it back. It's the ~6 year long wait that really hurts. What I do want however is that the paid upgrade is commensurate with the development work done, not what will be promised in the future. In other words if you decide to charge, the work must be completed, and not "Oh it's coming in a free update later on, we promise". Hopefully with Tom back we'll see some real progress. One final word: If a significant code rewrite is necessary, may I suggest that you give some serious thought about porting the 737 Classic to MSFS in the future. INIsim's port of the A310 is working out fairly well for them, and they're transitioning to MSFS sales with their web store. I hope Cameron would consider branching out to MSFS as well, Asobo is a very talented developer and MSFS is really hitting its stride with the 40th anniversary update, and addons like the Fenix A320 are showcasing what the sim can really do. It doesn't take a genius to know where the money is going, and I only wish you guys more financial success. Quote
tkyler Posted November 23, 2022 Author Report Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) I foresee two 'events' with regards to the 733. Event 1 is "port to XP12 'as is'. Event 2 is 'upgrades beyond the port'. The goal of event 1 is to get it to work in XP12 the way it does in XP11 given XPlane changes. Those who have made 733 purchases since early this year will certainly get the XP12 port version for free as stated on the XA product page. Beyond that XP12 port though, we have not made any determinations about what may or may not constitute a 'paid upgrade' beyond the fact that it shouldn't be egregious or outlandish. Regarding features 'beyond the xp12 port'... we have and hear arugments all the time for/against variants, cargo versions, etc and have not made up our minds yet about what may be next. The obvious things todo are the FMS work and upgrading all the 3D/textures/animations. As far as MSFS, a lot of us developers have kept an eye out on the whole market/dev process and a port is not a trivial thing, regardless of what Fenix / inisim is doing. We're talking multiple 1000s of man hours easily, and at my age and road traveled, that's a tall order.....regardless of the money potential. I rather enjoy my little world in X-Plane and those users who also see the same value in it. Perhaps Fenix, iniSim or someone else can do a 737-300. I can't speak for any other devs in the X-Aviation ecosystem, but for our part, we'll probably stick to X-plane with the 733...best I can tell from today. -TomK Edited November 23, 2022 by tkyler 30 Quote
PEPcessna Posted November 30, 2022 Report Posted November 30, 2022 Im glad about that response, to be honest I dont want xplane addons in msfs, I dont consider msfs as in depth of a simulator as xplane. When developers are having to port aircraft from one sim to another quality drops significantly. Inibuilds are good developers however the msfs a310 is incomplete/buggy, while im sure they will sort the bugs out eventually the decision by them to run on both platforms have left four incomplete/buggy aircraft one for msfs and three for xplane 11. Updates for one platform have to wait until completion of the other. I would prefer if addon developers would stick to one simulator and put the time and effort into one simulator so there arms are not stretched out beyond belief. If your prefer msfs thats fine but in a discussion about the 733 in xp12 I dont think it has a place but each to their own. 4 Quote
Vanadeo Posted December 18, 2022 Report Posted December 18, 2022 Quuuuick question. Does this mean there will be no more updates for xp11?... Just that I'll be using XP11 for a bit longer as i cant justify switching atm.. unless all focus on all mi fav addons shifts to xp12.. be forced to then lol. Quote
Cameron Posted December 18, 2022 Report Posted December 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Vanadeo said: Quuuuick question. Does this mean there will be no more updates for xp11?... Just that I'll be using XP11 for a bit longer as i cant justify switching atm.. unless all focus on all mi fav addons shifts to xp12.. be forced to then lol. Yes, future updates will be for 12 only. 1 1 Quote
Vanadeo Posted December 19, 2022 Report Posted December 19, 2022 Looks like my migration to XP-12 may be sooner then xD.. Excuse to build a new rig lol. Quote
Litjan Posted December 19, 2022 Report Posted December 19, 2022 Today some high altitude flightmodel testing for the conversion. The picture shows steady state at FL350 and M.74 with 46.000kgs. Book values (official POH) are: 82.8%N1 and 1009kg/h FF. 14 Quote
Vanadeo Posted December 19, 2022 Report Posted December 19, 2022 Hmmm Actually.. She flies so well in XP-11 I still might drag her through a few years.. Out of all the add-ons I have this one is one of my faves. Flying to Manchester :D. 5 Quote
FlyingToLearn Posted December 22, 2022 Report Posted December 22, 2022 Just chiming in my support. I am currently training on the Classic and have set myself up with all the hardware peripherals, and this IXEG aircraft. This aircraft is a legitimate lifeline for me and my preflight preparation. The work going into the update will not be in vein, if only for my needs. Many thanks ! 2 Quote
AngelOfAttack Posted December 22, 2022 Report Posted December 22, 2022 On 12/19/2022 at 7:12 AM, Cameron said: Yes, future updates will be for 12 only. I hope some FMC/VNAV function could be make into XP11 as well 1 Quote
Cameron Posted December 22, 2022 Report Posted December 22, 2022 5 hours ago, AngelOfAttack said: I hope some FMC/VNAV function could be make into XP11 as well I don't think that will be the case. There's a few reasons: 1. We anticipate some big changes for the 12 run 2. It's quite clear in our customer data that 12 is already HIGHLY adopted and favored this early on. It will only continue that direction moving forward. Spending time on previous builds of X-Plane will not be advantageous of the teams time or for majority of our customers. We will continue to offer the current 11 build for install, but to keep two platforms in development is highly unlikely. 7 Quote
FlyingToLearn Posted December 24, 2022 Report Posted December 24, 2022 I'm in the middle of my 737CL endorsement and I'm pretty grateful this aircraft exists on X-Plane. I've purchased a bunch of peripheral hardware to help with my training. Keep up the great work, and I look forward to seeing this aircraft fully updated for XP12. 2 Quote
Tobi_ Posted December 26, 2022 Report Posted December 26, 2022 So when we can expect the 737 to work in XP12? Quote
drh Posted December 26, 2022 Report Posted December 26, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 6:20 PM, tkyler said: The XP12 "compatibility" work is underway FYI. First order of business is to get it flying as it does now in XP11, and then to begin improvements. -TomK I would be haappy to pay for an upgrade to 12. Quote
tkyler Posted December 28, 2022 Author Report Posted December 28, 2022 On 12/26/2022 at 3:57 AM, Tobi_ said: So when we can expect the 737 to work in XP12? We've learned better than to give dates; however, we have a very well defined 'todo' checklist and are working towards this every day, full time, whereas in the past that was not the case. As such, it'll be more than a few weeks, but less than several months, there is a LOT of stuff to test. We customized a whole lot of things that have to be audited, assessed and in many cases, 'removed and patched over'. We are very committed to this guy though and definitely have improvements coming not too far down the road. 9 Quote
smokey43 Posted December 29, 2022 Report Posted December 29, 2022 This is "GREAT" to hear tkyler! Thank you for the periodic update this is refreshing to see! I am quite looking forward to using my favorite again soon in XP12. I miss it very much. Quote
Vas Gr Posted December 30, 2022 Report Posted December 30, 2022 Hello everyone, Is the IXEG 737 available for XP12 yet? I see the latest posts are quite getting old already so I'm just checking Thanks in advance! Quote
Pils Posted December 30, 2022 Report Posted December 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, Vas Gr said: Hello everyone, Is the IXEG 737 available for XP12 yet? I see the latest posts are quite getting old already so I'm just checking Thanks in advance! A few posts up.. 1 Quote
Iain Posted December 31, 2022 Report Posted December 31, 2022 All this info is really promising guys, I'm flying her a few times a week still, based in KMEM and flying the night freighter routes, good fun just now considering the crazy weather in the USA. Put in 50 hrs of flying according to my records in the 2 months! Happy to help with any testing if need be, just let me know. 1 Quote
Iain Posted January 1, 2023 Report Posted January 1, 2023 Great news and nice video, PS, that should have been a go-around Quote
tkyler Posted January 13, 2023 Author Report Posted January 13, 2023 FYI.....still full time on it. still on schedule...still have our same 'target date' not too far on the horizon. Again, more than a few weeks, but less than several months ( minus the weeks since last report) . TK 21 1 Quote
DaveHagen Posted January 16, 2023 Report Posted January 16, 2023 Can't wait! I love the 737 Classic! 2 Quote
Simmerdiman Posted January 22, 2023 Report Posted January 22, 2023 I hope that in the current life cycle of XP12 we will see not only 737-300, but also 400/500. Good luck guys. Your plane is still one of the best and atmospheric. 1 2 Quote
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