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Hi @imemyself it has been a while for sure and a valid question and I have no real excuse. The last year has very much been a "foundational stabilization" year. I'm getting close enough to retirement to start eyeballing these next 6 years and how to best navigate them after the Covid ripples upended several things in my life. A year ago this time I had an opportunity with Laminar once again and I took it....the previous years since Covid were a bit rocky and I had some catching up to do, which I have mostly done over the last 12 months. I've spent sporadic moments in the year working on the 737 FMOD conversion and we're in final sound testing on that. The MU2 has taken a back seat during this time. I have recently integrated X-Plane's new weather radar and most of the known issues are fixed, which you guys won't see till 12.4 or 12.5 perhaps, so I have been chipping on it. An update absolutely will be available and it is still maintained and will be for years to come I suspect. I took the gig with Laminar to "stay in the X-Plane ecosphere" and some important personal things have transpired this year that should clear the way for more XP work. I know that's pretty hollow talk considering the last year, but I'll just wrap up by saying there are no plans for me to abandon the MU2 and I get reminded about it frequently...so the pressure is on and felt.

You can create these using: Along-track offset distance - IDENT/(+-)DIST[/NAME] - offset plus or minus DIST from IDENT which is currently in the flight plan Place Bearing Distance - IDENTBRG/DIST[/NAME] - point defined by a distance along a radial from a place Place Bearing / Place Bearing - IDENTBRG/IDENTBRG[/NAME] - point defined by the intersection of two radials from two places LAT/LON coordinates. This can be done with Degrees Decimal Minutes, or shorthand as per the usual shorthand rules. There is some way you can do it using the joystick on the CCP and selecting the point on the MFD map, but I'm not entirely sure how you go about doing that. The Places in question do not have to be VORs, they can be any arbitrary point, including previously defined custom waypoints - I've created downwind, base, and final legs for visual approaches with VNAV planning using this feature. For your example specifically I'd use place bearing/distance. As far as I remember, just enter this in the scratchpad: IDENTBRG/DIST[/NAME] So in your example, if the VOR was ATY, you'd enter "ATY225/50" which would give you a waypoint 50nm southwest of ATY. If you added an extra trailing slash you could input a name for that waypoint as well. Then, once that's in the scratchpad, press the LSK next to where you want to insert it, and then add your altitude restriction on the right side as normal!

Sure it can. And it will until the 737 is where we want it.

Thanks, saved me from yanking my hair out

Sim now includes a G-loaded camera option that’s on by default.

Can't get my mind off the 717 for the simulator...did I little bit of scavenging and most of the IXEG and X-Aviation developers on this website forum are not really online, if you visit the X-Aviation site you can see a lot of general aviation planes that are out with 1 newly released plane, I haven't heard of any of the other planes that they have released other than the MU-2 and the Classic 737 but I might just not be caught up with everything or if they might've been released before their 737, maybe their focus is on general aviation instead There are other people trying to get this plane for x-plane like the Freeware 717 but that is about 6 years old now, the updates look pretty good and there were a lot of good pictures coming out of that but the modeling delivery has been going on for about 3 years now...not sure if the person is still working on it since we haven't had an update from them since 2022ish? Otherwise we are thankful that there are efforts to put a proper 717 for the flight sim like the TFDI one, we aren't the ones developing it after all, we're just waiting..

@roxmate We appreciate your feedback and understand your frustration. We've all been there as humans. However, I'd like to cover a few key points about upgrade pricing, time-limited offers, and how this practice aligns with industry standards across many different sectors. It's not unique to IXEG, and the cost of these add-ons are not life changing for the value they provide over the life of the item. Heck, you're only just now looking at an upgrade 9 years after your original purchase! I think it's pretty important people treat developers as people trying to live life and consider this expertise as a job, rather than an entitled hobby. Promotional pricing and limited-time discounts are standard business practices. Airlines frequently offer discounted fares for a limited period, but once the sale ends, passengers must pay full price. Should I be upset about this as a loyal customer who flies on my preferred airline and has status with them? The person next to me could very well have paid hundreds less. Similarly, hotels, subscription services, and even retailers like Amazon offer promotional pricing for a set period. If you miss the window, the deal is gone. This includes items you may purchase over and over. Likewise, when tech companies release new versions of software, they often provide early bird pricing or upgrade discounts for a limited time. Once the deadline passes, the standard pricing applies. Microsoft, Adobe, and many others are included in that. When you purchased the IXEG 737 in 2016, you received years of value from it in X-Plane 10 and X-Plane 11. The fact that it is no longer compatible with X-Plane 12 is due to platform evolution, not an arbitrary decision on IXEG's. When you buy a game or software, it doesn’t come with a lifetime guarantee of compatibility with all future versions of the operating system or platform. For example: A PlayStation 4 game does not automatically entitle you to a PlayStation 5 version for free. Some X-Plane developers have not even bothered to offer any discount at all. We did. X-Plane itself has required users to buy new versions (X-Plane 11 → X-Plane 12) rather than getting free updates forever. Loyalty discounts are meant to reward early adopters and returning customers within a set timeframe. Extending it indefinitely would defeat the purpose of having a promotion at all. Companies regularly run promotions with a defined expiration date. Steam and other game platforms frequently offer limited-time discounts, but customers who miss them must pay full price. We clearly communicated the timeframe of the loyalty discount in multiple places, multiple times, and gave ample opportunity for previous customers to take advantage of it. Nobody is forced to purchase the upgraded version. If you choose to continue flying in X-Plane 12 and want the IXEG 737, the upgrade is available at full price (or you can wait for a sale during holidays). While it may not appear all that different to some, the work involved to get the Classic Plus to market and at a proper baseline to what we had in X-Plane 11 was extensive development work, not just a minor patch. Just as X-Plane 12 itself required a new purchase, the IXEG 737 for XP12 reflects long months of work, visual improvements, and compatibility updates. While we do value all our customers, we also value and respect our own time. Our approach to upgrade pricing was carefully considered to balance fairness for both our loyal customers and our development team, who put significant work into this new version. While we understand that not everyone will agree with this approach, it's also not out of line in the grand scheme of things. We appreciate your understanding, and we hope you continue to enjoy flight simulation, whether with the IXEG 737 or other aircraft in your collection.

Hello and good day. I hate to make this post, but I am starting to get a little impatient. I've been waiting for 7+ days for someone to respond to my support ticket. I noticed X-Aviation staff are active here and reply to inquiries like this, so it's worth a shot. The tracking ID for my ticket is M6G-U53-4T45 and the ticket number is 835. Regards

Thanks @ilias.tselios. That was exactly it. I was running native when I realized I had to got to Rosetta. When I switch back and forth I have to reactive the license. Thanks for the reminder!

i havent flown this plane recently, gave it a shot on xp 12.2 but realised my throttles were not moving yet they were in settings. quick search on google i found a forum post from 2019 it said xpuipc could cause issues with the plane so i disabled it and throttles now work is this a known bug/a work around avail? Log.txt

Any news on this beauty?

Discussions in the HotStart discord, mostly, but I also have some non-public documentation I checked for the details.

There are changes in the 12.2.0 that I will include in the update. So expect release close to when the new X-Plane version become final.

There is an older version of XPUIPC that works - it is just the last version that does not...but I don´t remember the exact version number.

This one would be nice. Its still flying.

Okay thanks for your feedback, I will try to contact the Live Traffic developers

This bug is logged internally for the next update. This is due to X-Plane changing the brightness feature in the X1000 and some internals need to be shuffled to accommodate that.

Just in case you didn't find it, that's the map light Knob.

Good to know, FMC in depth that’s only one remark to the aircraft. Even VNAV is operating quite well, sometimes necessary to help it a bit, but generally good.

View File VH-XNE (Sharky AMSA) Hot Start Challenger 650 This is a livery for the Hot Start Challenger 650, inspired by VH-XNE from Australia To install, extract the zip file into the "liveries" folder. You can supply your own registration, but the underwing registration is baked in, there's only one "sharkified" AMSA CL604. If you enjoy my work, consider supporting me on Patreon to cover some of the horrendous Adobe-costs ;). Submitter pilotdeviation Submitted 04/13/2025 Category Hot Start Challenger 650  

View File Air Britannia Hot Start Challenger 650 This is a livery for the Hot Start Challenger 650, inspired by the old Air Britannia livery. To install, extract the zip file into the "liveries" folder. You can supply your own registration, D-ATHN is not printed on the cowlings. If you enjoy my work, consider supporting me on Patreon to cover some of the horrendous Adobe-costs ;). Submitter pilotdeviation Submitted 04/12/2025 Category Hot Start Challenger 650  

View File N1CU Hot Start Challenger 650 This is a livery for the Hot Start Challenger 650, inspired by N1CU. To install, extract the zip file into the "liveries" folder. You can supply your own registration, N1CU is not printed on the cowlings. If you enjoy my work, consider supporting me on Patreon to cover some of the horrendous Adobe-costs ;). Submitter pilotdeviation Submitted 04/12/2025 Category Hot Start Challenger 650  

Very similar, a sign in with email and password, but it’s a different plugin entirely, unrelated to Gizmo or its original developer.

https://discord.gg/Seaj6hXUNp

It appears the pilot (left side) lighting panel adjusts the glareshield backlighting instead of the center lighting panel. The manual shows it should be center lighting panel. Please see attached video. For my purposes I'm good now that I know which panel actually adjusts the glareshield backlighting. It is a bit confusing, though, since it doesn't appear to match the CL60 manual. X-Plane 2025.04.06 - 19.30.13.02.mp4

It is written with red letters at the top of the description:

I think this Error Report could be canceled. With the new Beta, the Error didn't appear anymore. It was a rare one anyway. It didn't appear at every Shutdown, even with using the G500.

NAV SRC, then course knob.

I can't put it mildly, but it is not possible at this time. With Gizmo development stopped, there is no simple way to achieve XP12 compatibility. Said that, there is a possibility in the future, to remake everything from scratch in a form of payware, with complete proline avionics and more.

IIRC the 733 had some camera shake/movement integrated on its own, so it's possible the new built-in feature is compounding it in a negative way.

Max chips run X-Plane really well. He'll have a great experience for years to come.

Hi, Thank you Coop, that did the trick for me! Glad to be back In the virtual air, again thanks. All the best, Mike

View File OE-LAU Hot Start Challenger 650 This is a livery for the Hot Start Challenger 650, inspired by the old Lauda Air livery for the 777 and Austrian A320s. To install, extract the zip file into the "liveries" folder. You can supply your own registration, OE-LAU is not printed on the cowlings. If you enjoy my work, consider supporting me on Patreon to cover some of the horrendous Adobe-costs ;). Submitter pilotdeviation Submitted 03/20/2025 Category Hot Start Challenger 650  

Completely broken now.. Engines are screwed :(. I thought they might be but worth a try..

I'm usually not that guy, but in this case, don't get your hopes too high. The last progress update (no, not aircraft update, just an update on the update) was in July last year, and since then, the developer keeps radio silence. It's been almost two years since the Moo last got an update (May 2023); bugs long known (missing click spot etc.) never got fixed (or the fix never published). That's sad for a $60 add-on, but nothing we can do about.

Any update on this thread? Think this is a must for the CL650.

Spoken like someone who really knows what they're talking about!

These are for Friction Control for the Throttle and Condition Levers. They are working. Move them full forward with the Mouse and you can't move the Levers anymore.

Around what era did MikeL/RIM/BB have a Challenger? Now I’m curious!

Well, after strugling a lot with differente solutions, i decided to do myself an excel sheet to make the job. I'm not a native speaker, so i did it like i could. Do your best to use it. W&B CL650.xlsx

The Challenger can be hard work on the approach and landing, but when it all comes together it's very rewarding. All the beta testers had difficulty learning how to land, it's all part of the fun. On approach be aware that unlike aircraft like the 737, the pitch response to power is reversed, that means a power increase will see the aircraft pitch down for a moment. This can lead to an oscillation developing, so be sure to fly the pitch attitude accurately. If you find you're wobbling up and down, aim to make smooth power changes, and remember the HUD flight path vector is useful tool, but can get you into trouble too. A useful check is 0.6 on the AoA index on approach. If it's higher than that, you're too slow. Remember Vref +5, and check your weights on the approach ref page. For the landing flare, lift the nose to to arrest the rate of descent, starting at just below 40 ft. Make a smooth power reduction and fly the aircraft onto the runway. The pitch attitude in the flare is around 3 degrees, but look at the end of the runway, not the HUD! You'll have plenty of time for butter later, so for now put the aircraft down positively in the touchdown zone. If you go butter hunting, you'll only find little bounces - ask me how I know! Once you've landed, extend the flight spoilers (the ground spoilers are automatic, but the flight spoilers need to be raised by pulling the lever), use the reversers and you're down. And stay away from that HLIS button, it'll trick you into making your landings worse!

If you have Flywithlua installed you can fix the bank roll limit by creating a lua script with the following content: if (AIRCRAFT_FILENAME == "LES_Saab_340A.acf" or AIRCRAFT_FILENAME == "LES_Saab_340A_Cargo.acf" or AIRCRAFT_FILENAME == "LES_Saab_340A_AEW.acf") then function les_bank_fixer() dataref("SBankLimit","sim/cockpit2/autopilot/bank_angles_values","writable") SBankLimit = 27.0 end do_often("les_bank_fixer()") end

No, this is not in an active development state. The 737 has priority at the moment.

Thanks! Some time in the future yes, but first I have to finish my job on DC3, then update both DC3 and C23 to XP12 standards, and then I hope to find some time for Avanti. I have tested in XP12, there are a few issues need solving to be fully operational. (Images are from early alpha versions)

Hello friends. Any CSL model for online flight?

The Saab is 8 years old and has been upgraded through multiple xplane versions for free.

This issue is caused by running the APR test while the engines are not running. As mentioned by Bruno, running the test again when the engines are running will fix this

Hello, The ATS will fail when you test the reversers as part of the normal procedures. When the annunciator says FAIL disconnect the ATS using the buttons on the back of the throttles (or a key binded to autothrottle disconnect). Then you may re-enable it by pressing TOGA. Brgds