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This is absolutely NOT true. It's just their technical support team using canned responses to get rid of you. If you run the installer with --install_name="X-Plane 12.4.0-r2-9b69b91a" command line option then it will downgrade when you select "Update X-Plane."

zzz....oh man...just woke up after a 18 month hibernation! Seriously....Nothing is forgotten, only life has happened. Here's a quick summary: Spent last 18-24 months in a significant life transition as I approach and prepare for retirement. Lots of loose ends to tie up and leave in the past. I now work full time for Laminar, a big change...and I have been positioning myself to stay in X-Plane work exclusively for the future. I'm wrapping up a 2-year private contract for the BETA ALIA production aircraft (which will be in X-Plane). I'll complete that work next month. Gizmo based code in all my products is nearing end of life and had complicated the update process due to the volume of code to rewrite......however AI has enabled a path to relearn concepts & rewrite the code as its become "X-Plane SDK aware" in the last year...This reduces the effort drastically and is a major catalyst. No fees for future updates on the MU2 or IXEG when they eventually go out. Updates will always be free for existing customers. They've earned that. After ALIA delivery, I'll return to push an update to the MU2 with the Gizmo code-base....I won't get OCD....I'll just push what I have, which is a good amount. After MU2 update, I begin code rewrites to serve as my future code platform for the MU2, IXEG and the forth-coming 717. This is foundational and absolutely required to guarantee long term compatibility for these products. Those aircraft will be the only three products I will maintain into retirement and beyond. That's the highlights. This gap in work has been all about my focus and preparation to sustain myself after retirement, and stay within the X-Plane ecosphere in the process.

This will serve as an official announcement that we have released the version 2.2.2 update for the SR22 G1000 Series. All customers who have purchased the SR22 G1000 Series up till now have been sent an e-mail by X-Aviation with complete instructions on how to obtain your update. We have made this a very simple process! For those that purchase the SR22 G1000 Series from today forward, your purchased download will already be updated to version 2.2.2 for you. What if I didn't get the update e-mail? If you did not receive your update e-mail don't fret! X-Aviation has updated our system to allow all customers to update with ease, regardless of whether you received an e-mail for the update! Here's what to do: 1. Login to your X-Aviation account here: https://www.x-aviation.com/catalog/account_history.php 2. Find your original SR22 G1000 Series download and re-download the file. It will download as the latest version! The following is a list of additions/fixes included: Bug Fixes and Improvements: X-Plane 12.4 / 12.4.1 adjustments and updated dataref usage Latest physics engine Spark plugs will revert to clean status when wear/maintenance system is disabled (previously whatever state they were in before when disabling was kept) Fuel lines are primed by default when persistent systems are turned off Disabled fuel sloshing on ground Expedite priming process until fuel flow registers during engine start Adjusted turbocharger bearing drag and fluctuations near idle (SR22TN) Tuned fuselage Cd for more accurate speeds in pattern environment (SR22) Adjust positive fuel flow with low boost and engine off Replacement of deprecated datarefs Updated libraries and dependencies Adjusted prop disc behavior FMOD Volume adjustments and minor sound tuning Fix error where certain degraded networks lead to stuck loading of aircraft As always, thanks for being a customer with X-Aviation. We appreciate your feedback and support! Enjoy these latest updates, and stay tuned to the forum as we continually announce the latest happenings.

We can't INSTANTLY come out with an update when a new version of X-Plane comes out. As much as we want to, it's unreasonable to expect that from anyone. In the X-Plane world, many developers always recommend to keep 2 installations of X-Plane. A stable version and a beta. Regarding the Challenger update...we're currently on beta 3 within 1 week. That beta is in the hands of our testers. 3 beta's in 1 week is quite fast. There are only 2 of us on the Hot Start team. We can't work on two products at the same time, so while the Challenger is getting updated, we're going to ask people to continue to be patient for the TBM. If you expect an update in the next week or two, all I can tell you is the update will be out when it's done. We want it out as much as you do. But it doesn't make sense to put out an update that isn't ready. Whatever you think about the situation is entirely your opinion. It will have no influence on how fast the updates get done.

It's not worth doing. Laminar can instruct you on how to downgrade if you contact them. We hope to have an update out on our end within the next week or two.

Hi, do you guys have a timeline on the update? I'm curious if I should buy the steam version so I can go back to 12.4.0.

Thanks. We know. A beta to fix will be out soon. (See numerous other threads.)

Laminar released the current stable version of X-Plane 12.4.1 today on which the current version 1.8 of HotStart Challenger 650 crashes with the error "Threading violation calling XPLMGetDatad". Loading the TorqueSim SR-22 crashes with the same error. The release notes of X-Plane even state the issue. I hope this gets fixed soon as there is no way of getting an older X-Plane version on new installations.

https://support.x-aviation.com/knowledgebase.php?article=7

Once Laminar Research releases its new documentation for users and devs, I believe you can expect renewed activity on the IXEG.

Hello All, This will serve as an official announcement that we have released update version 1.9 for the CL650. All customers who have purchased the CL650 up till now have been sent an e-mail by X-Aviation with complete instructions on how to obtain your update. We have made this a very simple process! For those that purchase the CL650 from today forward, your purchased download will already be updated to version 1.9 for you. What if I didn't get the update e-mail? If you did not receive your update e-mail don't fret! X-Aviation has updated our system to allow all customers to update with ease, regardless of whether you received an e-mail for the update! Here's what to do: 1. Login to your X-Aviation account here: https://www.x-aviation.com/catalog/account_history.php  2. Find your original Challenger 650 download and re-download the file. It will download as the latest version! The following is a list of additions/fixes included: Release Highlights: Fixed various manipulators being reversed on the overhead Particle effect luminosity is incorrectly set in XP12 making them appear extremely bright Rewrote large portions of shared cockpit to allow for multi-crew, passengers, spectators and a much simpler setup process (documentation forthcoming) Engaging the yaw dampers requires holding the buttons down for a couple of seconds As we no longer utilize Gizmo, Mac ARM support is now complete and Mac users should stop running X-Plane through Rosetta if you don't have any other products which require Gizmo (the installer will point them out if you do). Improvements: 4536: Add support for rudder and steering control using only keyboard & mouse 4565: Add support for SayIntentions and custom ACARS service provider URLs 4569: Retune AP flap constants to avoid excessive altitude excursions 4573: Refactor pitch FMA mode to hold the commanded attitude more tightly 4577: Implement persistent logging of CB pop reason 4589: Add waypoint description codes introduced in ARINC 424-20 4590: Switch to reduced bank angle for hold path at FL316 not FL245 4593: Update world magnetic coefficients to 2025 4606: Implement gRPC API 4629: Workaround for weak X-Plane's aileron effectiveness at low airspeeds 4643: Switch to using nvcompress for DDS generation (better texture colors) 4649: Implement compressed normal maps for XP12 4600: Add support for new combined wheelbrake axis 4468: Stab/mach trim and yaw damper buttons must be held down to engage 4698: Expand shared cockpit to allow for multiple concurrent connections and easier setup Bugfixes: 4535: Typo in pressurization study screen tooltip 4538: Crash on XP11 when aviationweather.gov returns zero METARs for an airport 4537: Mouse yoke breaks on 3rd party airplanes if the CL650 was loaded previously 4539: Module boot time variation is producing doubled audio on startup from DCU and PSEU 4534: FAA obstacle database not decompressing correctly due to ZIP version change 4541: Remove IRU debug logging on release builds 4542: Typo in AFCS visualizer reads "Nm/s" when it should say "Nm" 4543: Deleting last leg of an airway in LEGS when preceding and following legs are discontinuities can crash 4545: AC AUTOXFER FAIL indications on MFD synoptic page should be driven directly by CAS trigger 4546: Recompute a vertical direct-to on mod exec 4547: On executing vertical direct-to, disable the NO VPATH-PILOT CMD suppression 4372: Sporadic and spurious NOT IN DATABASE messages 4551: Bad memory allocation in DCU wire-to-lamp definition parsing code 4556: CTD due to phys.c assertion in atmos_main for shared cockpit guest in X-Plane 11 4558: Harden netcode against ingesting values too large to represent as an FP16 4552: Various manipulators are reversed in latest stable release 4563: VTBS has overflowed the maximum number of SIDs (200) causing a crash when attempting to pick a SID in DEP/ARR DEPARTURE 4571: CTD due to assertion "abus_isval(tod_pause.time2tod)" failed 4574: NWS actuator shoudn't be feeding off the inboard brake hydraulic line 4582: Regression: fix for 0004495 broke AIRWAY INTERSECTION page's ability to automatically resolve the intersection 4583: earth_nav.dat parser needs to normalize whitespace before line splitting 4584: Fix heat damage on engine isn't fixing damage from engine fires 4585: DataRefTool crashes trying to immediately read our datarefs before their setup is completed 4592: FDR data incorrectly labels stick shaker signal as pilot-commanded AP disconnection signal 4595: MFD display reversion is erroneously triggering MFD XTLK flag 4607: Aircraft contrail particle effects are broken in XP12 4608: KLAX ORCKA5 produces spurious UNABLE FPLN ALT due to short leg sequence across discontinuity 4610: FCU clogged failure can cause crash due to incorrect meter_valve_rat clamping 4624: IF legs need to be stripped out when following an enroute transition that bypasses them 4493: Linux with AMD GPU without Zink is borked on latest beta build Object Fixes: Main Panels1.obj Dsus fastener positions fixed on right side panel. Object Fixes: Nose Gear Bay.obj Mesh added to fill in gaps around edges of opening. 4625: NOT ON INTERCEPT TRACK is coded completely wrong 4626: Increase XTALK FAIL message time delay to 10 seconds 4627: SBAS VPL should be ignored when flying an approach in RNP mode 4602: Anti-ice fluid on wings not visible from inside 4628: Refactor nose door implementation to properly route through relay K4GA 4631: Tie amber generator circles on the AC synoptic page to corresponding GEN OFF CAS messages 4632: Use tighter holding pattern radii at all altitudes 4636: PPOS flight plan disappears from PFDs 4 seconds after selecting PFD reversion 4638: phys subsystem still references rucsoundings 4639: Incorrect LPV vertical path construction 4640: Harden LTP and FPAP access functions to bad data 2452: FIX page symbology not showing on MFD when SEC FPLN showing on MFD 4650: NAV LTS breaker has the wrong rating 4651: Stop hard-depending on stock X-Plane commands existing 3938: Updating DIRECT-TO NEAREST AIRPORTS's MIN RWY does not require UPDATE AIRPORTS to be selected 4118: Existing waypoints should be dropped when changing flight plan via Direct-To NEAREST AIRPORTS 4369: XP11 version of ACF is missing instrument label and CB collar OBJs 4385: Updated hint images with all corrections to Jan 2024 4548: Change hint image loader to accept RGB formatted images 4503: Update "more info" links to use CL650/Study prefix 4434: Engaging AP while FLC is active should sync speed target to current speed 3141: Pressing Left LSK for RX fix (visual approach) should put pre-constructed PBD into scratchpad 4654: Pilot-defined waypoints do not properly initialize pbd.src field 4656: Stabilizer trim runaway failure cannot be interrupted by disengaging stabilizer trim 4657: Remove "CVR" failure from 24-Elec 4660: Failures.txt documentation mistakes 4570: Regression? When IF is not aligned with FAC, APPR LNV wrongly flies FAC 4661: Don't show CHECK LOC TUNING when on missed approach 4668: Attempting TTS on Arch Linux with no festival(1) binary present crashes X-Plane with SIGSEGV 4673: Along-track waypoint doesn't use the correct inbound course on direct-to leg 4674: Compute VDEV even when track angle error exceeds capture limit 4675: Retuned ISI attitude finding to produce less pitch error while in hold 4670: Avionics should default to inches of mercury rather than hPa 4684: Implement missing failures 4695: Retune XP12 cabin lighting 4696: Harden the AIRAC parser against invalid altitude constraints causing a crash 4710: Crash on XP12.4.1 due to hard limits on not querying datarefs from background threads 4711: FCC 1B/2A status study screens are mislabeled 4712: LDU channel label in failure description is incorrect 4715: X-Plane 12.4 requires instances to be created from pre-flightloop callbacks 4720: Triggering auto-FO checklists crashes on X-Plane 12.4.1 4722: X-Plane 12.4.1 breaks popup panels due to XPLMFindCommand being invoked from background thread 4778: Reloading while in a hold pattern will reset the hold pattern state and perform hold entry again, 4779: Implement a HOLD DEBUG screen, 4768: Regression: with a lot of crosswind at high altitude, hold pattern tracking gets confused on the outbound leg 4771: Add data ref to indicate shared cockpit role of user 4520: In shared cockpit throttle control is susceptible to jittering 4810: Readjust panel lighting levels to match XP12.3 and later changes 4140: Generator transfers trip off stab & mach trim Enjoy these latest updates, and stay tuned to the forum as we continually announce the latest happenings.

In the Citation when using the TDS garmin GTN750Xi, in turns the roll bar on the flight director is incessantly twitching back and forth, and the AP is also constantly varying the bank angle, resulting in a small but annoying rapid wing rock. It appears as if there are conflicting roll inputs fighting each other. It does it with the UNS on or off. Any ideas on how to calm it down?

Welp Felis 74 and this bird are the only two aircraft I have interest in, regarding XP-12 .. So far incredibly after all these updates, IXEG still flies sweet.. I've made a little tweak to the startup sounds.. Personally the main update for me would be FMC.. The sounds are pretty sweet as they are for now. Whilst I am capable of doing manual holds I would prefer it to be taken care of xD. Meanwhile I have found a plugin that automatically does it. Do I love this addon?, yeah.. Do I think it's a "Broken promise"?.. I don't remember being promised owt, If that's my ignorance, then fair play xD.. All I know is I paid 80 quid for 737 simulation that lasts indefinitely that appears to do (to the best of it's ability) what a real 737 does.. I could rent a sim down south for 2 hours that might do a better job for nearly 300 quid. IXEG 73 is a gorgeous plane and I hope I get few more years out of her. I'd be grateful for any future developent. I always think to what I got when I was a Kid, back end of 90s lol. I have moaned in the past, but I since grown out of that crap.

Hi there I just updated to the newest version V2.2.2. When I set the Garmin-map to the following screen (see screenshot) to get airport-informations, the WX-key doesn't work. When I press on it, nothing happens. It works perfectly in the default SR22. I would appreciate any help. Many thanks.

In a nut shell. Project was nearly dropped completely. Some developers allowed continuation of project just with less people. Developer all spent time helping laminar. With less people its getting a complete FMS update to use XP nav data and fix nagging nav issues, its also getting a complete sound update to FMOD. Wont happen in a hurry with less people. Yes I read a lot

Every time I load a flight I get a CTD with 'threading violation' in the log. 2026-03-31 13:55:31 CL650[libsvs.c:4912]: libsvs(SVC): utilizing background rendering via IOSurface Threading violation calling XPLMGetDatai (/Users/administrator/.gitlab-runner/builds/5iac3Er_D/0/x-plane/design/SDK/COMMON/xplanesdk/Src/XPLM/XPLMDataAccess.cpp:327) Violation by Challenger 650 by Hot Start (hotstart.challenger650) 2026-03-31 13:55:31 CL650[except.c:120]: Caught SIGABORT: abort (0x1a049d5b0) Backtrace is: 2 libsystem_platform.dylib 0x00000001a04e1764 _sigtramp + 56 3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00000001a04d7888 pthread_kill + 296 4 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00000001a03dc850 abort + 124 5 XPLM 0x000000012aba52c4 _Z26__XPLMValidateThreadSafetyPKcS0_i + 536 6 XPLM 0x000000012ab938ac XPLMGetDatai + 56 7 systems.xpl 0x000000037117028c wfETC1_DecodeImage + 130948 8 systems.xpl 0x0000000370ed55b4 XPluginReceiveMessage + 4031316 9 systems.xpl 0x0000000370edbed0 XPluginReceiveMessage + 4058224 10 systems.xpl 0x00000003711a6e78 wfETC1_DecodeImage + 355184 11 systems.xpl 0x00000003711a3840 wfETC1_DecodeImage + 341304 12 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00000001a04d7c08 _pthread_start + 136 13 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00000001a04d2ba8 thread_start + 8 --=={This application has crashed!}==-- In the X-Plane release notes it acknowledges that the Challenger 650 is not compatible: https://www.x-plane.com/kb/x-plane-12-4-1-release-notes/

Please don’t post whole log spams, rather attach the txt file to the post. Regardless: https://support.x-aviation.com/knowledgebase.php?article=7

Laminar released the current stable version of X-Plane 12.4.1 today on which the current version TorqueSim Sr22 crashes with the error "Threading violation calling XPLMGetDatad". X-Plane 12.4.0 worked fine. I hope this gets fixed soon as there is no way of getting an older X-Plane version on new installations. Log.txt

Wow, I must say Cameron was right. I switched back to XP version 12.4.0 and all my SR22s are working like a dream. Thanks.

Couldn't find much information online about audio issues with either the Motherboard or CPU, Updated my audio drivers but alas, no luck. I will update my BIOS some time over the weekend and see if that was an issue. After that im not sure what to do. The plane is great in all other ways - but this audio issue is really hampering it, I will let you know when I have more info, but I am not really sure what to do next.

Well, it seems you are completely right with it being a thing on my end. Tried it on my macbook, and my spouse's windows laptop - both of which are working fine. Id be curious to know what OP's computer specs were as it might be an issue with a specific hardware (for me an I5-12600kf and an msi b760m mobo) those two would be the culprits of a hardware audio problem, now time to see if these have any known issues with openAL.

Quite some time ago, but tried it as shown in your video and good enough for me

X-Plane 12 - Pilatus PC-12/47 - Sedona to Telluride Pilatus PC12/47 by Thranda Design Sedona Airport and Scenery by X-Codr Telluride Regional Airport UHD and Scenery by X-Codr

On the learning curve with a Skyhawk, toward EDDF (Germany). As you can see, Ortho4XP doing a fine job.

Hi all, Thought i'd post a few screenshots of some of my recent flights, all have had some tweaking in photoshop to give them a slightly more real appearance.

Xp13 will already be at version 13.5 and we will still waiting for the radar and the beta update... but don’t ask anything to the devs