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I have to agree with the above statements. I have several planes rotting in the hanger because of updates promised and never delivered. The Challenger 650 desperately needs the weather radar to function and properly. It appears that the plane was made for X-Plane 11 originally and changed to woke with X-plane 12. Laminar Research has made giant strides is the improvement of the Flight Simulator and I truly believe it should the plane developer to bring that experience to their customers. Laminar has created a real time weather with cloud condition for your flight route. The Weather Radar is not just a color changing screen to look at, but critical flight data to avoid dangerous weather ahead. Would you really get on a commercial flight knowing the plane did not have radar heading into sever weather. Yes, this aircraft is very much in need of updates. Not become complacent with your thinking I'm good and so is my plane. Since the CL650 has no Weather Radar maybe a price reduction to $70 US Dollars is needed. Laminar is working overtime on their planes. UPDATE NEEDED: The cabin switch (Mics Lts) on the overhead panel does nothing. What is this switch for? The anti ice switch for the Wing works backwards. To move the switch down you must direct the switch up. Therefore, to move the switch up you need to direct the switch down.

Using your logic, as long as you do not charge for the x-plane 12 TBM update the promise is not broken. If your argument is correct, Hot Start has an infinite amount of time to release the update. There is an implied promise that the update will be released in a reasonable period of time. A year might be considered reasonable, 3 1/2 years is not. X-plane 12 was released on 12/17/2022. On 12/20/2022 one of the principals at Hot Start published a live stream of the TBM actually flying in X-plane 12. In that stream he said the update was going to be a lot of work, it migh take a month or two. It is very likely that stream had a positive effect on the TBM sales. In the 3 1/2 years since that stream there has not been one single piece of concrete evidence that any work at all has been done on the update (a couple of photos on discord is not concrete evidence).

Here is a quote from an administrator at the Hot Start Discord server: "XP11 is long past EOL, it’s time to move on" X-Aviation sold me the TBM with the promise " Purchase today, X-Plane 12 update will be free!" That line is still on the X-Aviation website. If the underlying software, x-plane 11, is "EOL" so is the TBM. You guys made a commercial promise that you did not deliver on. Shameful!

Has there been any announcement on when the weather radar will be available to use in the Challenger 650?

In my experience, a lack of updates indicates product end of life and has very little to do with code stability unless the code is quite basic, which it is not in this case.

It doesn't warrant an update? I think it absolutely does. Other aircraft have had an operational weather radar for some time now, but it's been missing from the CL650 - one of the most expensive aircraft addons available. I rarely fly the CL650 now because it is missing Wx Radar. It's a great aircraft, but incomplete since it's missing critical functionality. I routinely receive updates for other expensive aircraft addons ive purchased, but not a single update has been released for the CL650 and I've owned it for 5 months now.

Thanks!

Sometimes that's what's required to keep a stable product. Luckily, the 650 is very stable and doesn't need such frequent updates. Lack of updates isn't really a differentiator in this case.

You know, since as long as I can remember, aircraft that I usually fly, have offered an ability to "shorten" or even completely eliminate in some lengthy procedures, the wait time, like the alignment time of the IRS. I find it VERY annoying to request a simbrief download and then have to twiddle my thumbs for 10 minutes. Realism you say... well F realism, at the very least you could offer an option to make this the time it actually takes, and given any other simbrief download I've seen that time is virtually instantaneous. SO, if you have customers that get their yaya's by staring at a screen for 5 or 10 minutes then more power to them... me, I just want to load the damn plan and simulate what I actually care about, you know... FLYING.