Ben Russell Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 (edited) There's also my somewhat dormant "x-httpd" project which is part of the roadmap for getting Gizmo-powered systems onto things like tablets and smart phones as a "Remote FMS" input system. External hardware and integration is definitely on our radar, at all levels. Edited March 16, 2016 by Ben Russell 5
StevenM Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 46 minutes ago, Ben Russell said: I've been dabbling in the world of Arduino/ESP8266 and IoT. My preferred protocol at the moment is MQTT. Gizmo will be getting more powerful USB API options in future too so we can make sure any of our product integrations are 100% seamless. Interesting and off topic, did you consider ZeroMQ? Since IIRC MQTT handles only messaging (very well). 1
Ben Russell Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 36 minutes ago, StevenM said: Interesting and off topic, did you consider ZeroMQ? Since IIRC MQTT handles only messaging (very well). I had not come across ZMQ ... I became interested in MQTT because of the ESP8266 uC, it seems ZMQ isn't quite so easy to pull off there. In any case, it'd be some kind of new plugin that adds protocol support. Just posting to give a general heads up that we're aware of and interested in some of the more esoteric ways to setup custom hardware. Thanks for the pointer.. bookmarked.
737NUT Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 4 hours ago, tkyler said: we certainly want to encourage that kind of 3rd party interaction with the 737 and do plan to publish datarefs/commands as needed. We are wanting to start a dedicated forum just for "interfacing geeks", where cockpit builders and other developers can discuss how to go about doing things and what is needed from IXEG to facilitate such efforts. -tkyler Music to my ears. Thanks!
Timendainum Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 Great news! Glad to hear you guys are thinking about this tinkering crowd even though there are probably not a ton of us. Glad to hear you are going to publish datarefs as well. It has been like pulling teeth to get information out of some plane developers concerning external interfaces. I believe I only have one plane with Gizmo in it, so I haven't dealt with it directly. I should, as I know, and program in lua frequently. My solutions are pretty straightforward, I'm not using some of the more esoteric solutions. I've been using Arduino and ArdSim library, which makes short work out of the programming side of things and keeps all the heavy lifting in actually building the panels. 1
maumauthompson Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 Videos! Screenshots! ANYTHING, PLEASE! You guys are keeping us in the dark! 1 6
poodster Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 2 hours ago, maumauthompson said: Videos! Screenshots! ANYTHING, PLEASE! You guys are keeping us in the dark! Because they are working hard 4
ONDR4.cz Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 I was wondering though, if they have a closed group of betatesters, maybe they could lift the NDA for them so that they can post some screenshots from their test flights? That would keep all of us happy (and our mouths shut) and meanwhile the team could peacefully continue working towards releasing the plane. Just a thought. 3
Cameron Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 I was wondering though, if they have a closed group of betatesters, maybe they could lift the NDA for them so that they can post some screenshots from their test flights? That would keep all of us happy (and our mouths shut) and meanwhile the team could peacefully continue working towards releasing the plane. Just a thought. There's no winning here. I have seen SO many complaints on X-Plane related groups about all the beta shots going out for the x737 and lack of release. We are not going to start doing this. At some point you have to realize the aircraft still looks as has already been shown. Short answer: won't be happening at this stage! 4 2
Yidahoo Posted March 18, 2016 Report Posted March 18, 2016 As amazing as this 737-300 looks and as much as I am looking forward to it, I don't understand this rampant impatience and obsessive compulsive desire to have updates every five minutes. Let's put it in perspective, it's a series of 0s and 1s that will be squeezed down a cable to your computer so that you can simulate being a 737-300 pilot. You will receive nothing tangible, nothing physical and all the while it continues to be perfected, the world turns and life goes on. When the day comes for it to be released many of us will buy it and many of us will certainly enjoy it immensely but it will still only be a small part of our day to day lives (or at least it should be). In short, there are more important things in life. 4
sizziano Posted March 18, 2016 Report Posted March 18, 2016 1 minute ago, Yidahoo said: You will receive nothing tangible, nothing physical... While I agree with your overall point why does this matter?
gcharrie Posted March 18, 2016 Report Posted March 18, 2016 2 hours ago, Yidahoo said: ... I don't understand this rampant impatience and obsessive compulsive desire to have updates every five minutes. ... In short, there are more important things in life. +1 We know they are working hard on the plane to release it. Nothing more to say. Just wait and fly on another plane in x-plane or play another game... If you have other area of interest in life, so go out and enjoy real life... 2
everstalker Posted March 18, 2016 Report Posted March 18, 2016 (edited) To the theme Beta Testers, I thing IXEG don´t need Beta testers the only one that they and we need is Jan It´s not enough to play X Plane since 10 years when the tester haven´t a type rating of this one and can´t test the diffrents procedures Chris Edited March 18, 2016 by everstalker
Litjan Posted March 18, 2016 Report Posted March 18, 2016 4 minutes ago, everstalker said: To the theme Beta Testers, I thing IXEG don´t need Beta testers the only one that they and we need is Jan It´s not enough to play X Plane since 10 years when the tester haven´t a type rating of this one and can´t test the diffrents procedures Chris Thanks for the credits - but quite the opposite is true! Since I tend to operate the plane the way it was intended, I don´t cover the way that 90% of our customers will use it. They don´t know or don´t care for the proper procedures, limitations and system behaviour. We have to get ready for a myriad of support questions like "you guys forgot the mixture lever!" and "wtf, I can´t find the ignition keys!" Few customers will really know or take the time to learn how to operate this plane, and we want to see where our model is showing faults. This is why this second round of beta-testers will focus on people with no real 737 experience. We already know that this plane behaves correctly when flown correctly - now we want to find out if it behaves correctly when flown by Kerbals! Cheers, Jan 12
FSSteven Posted March 18, 2016 Report Posted March 18, 2016 58 minutes ago, Litjan said: focus on people with no real 737 experience. ... my mom is interested 1
Celis Posted March 18, 2016 Report Posted March 18, 2016 Just give him the ignition keys.... 1 hour ago, Litjan said: "wtf, I can´t find the ignition keys!" We already know that this plane behaves correctly when flown correctly Cheers, Jan Thanks Jan and thats great... "plane behaves correctly when flown correctly" Thats all we need... 1
poodster Posted March 18, 2016 Report Posted March 18, 2016 You're saying my keys for my car won't work? Damn it, I was really hoping you would implement that 2
frumpy Posted March 18, 2016 Report Posted March 18, 2016 You will have to stick the key in the GPU fan while aligning the IRS. 1
torgeir Posted March 18, 2016 Report Posted March 18, 2016 One thing I have wondered for a while now. In the real plane, is there some security feature to keep a simmer from starting up the plane if one get access to the cockpit. Do not misinterpret this. I have no intention of trying.
ayster Posted March 18, 2016 Report Posted March 18, 2016 11 minutes ago, torgeir said: One thing I have wondered for a while now. In the real plane, is there some security feature to keep a simmer from starting up the plane if one get access to the cockpit. Do not misinterpret this. I have no intention of trying. Yep, they hide the keys behind the sun visor! 2
Iridium Posted March 18, 2016 Report Posted March 18, 2016 (edited) 24 minutes ago, torgeir said: One thing I have wondered for a while now. In the real plane, is there some security feature to keep a simmer from starting up the plane if one get access to the cockpit. Do not misinterpret this. I have no intention of trying. I can't say for sure when it comes to the 737s since I've never flown one, but I can say for sure that the CRJs have no such feature. If you manage to get into the flight deck and you know what you're doing, there's nothing to stop you. The hardest part, though, is opening the door. CRJs can sometimes be tricky to get into if you've not got much experience letting down the door. But as far as I'm aware, no large aircraft have keys or anything of the sort. Edited March 18, 2016 by Iridium
torgeir Posted March 18, 2016 Report Posted March 18, 2016 I can't say for sure when it comes to the 737s since I've never flown one, but I can say for sure that the CRJs have no such feature. If you manage to get into the flight deck and you know what you're doing, there's nothing to stop you. The hardest part, though, is opening the door. CRJs can sometimes be tricky to get into if you've not got much experience letting down the door. But as far as I'm aware, no large aircraft have keys or anything of the sort. Ok. Kind of scary, but I guess security outside of aircrafts is good enough in most parts of the world...
Ben Russell Posted March 18, 2016 Report Posted March 18, 2016 "Ground? Is this ground? Hi, can I get some gas and, um, a pushback truck over here at um... gate... um..." "Does your mom know where you are?" 3
-VETTE Posted March 18, 2016 Report Posted March 18, 2016 40 minutes ago, Ben Russell said: "Ground? Is this ground? Hi, can I get some gas and, um, a pushback truck over here at um... gate... um..." "Does your mom know where you are?" Fuel, the best anti-theft system 1
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