leinsters Posted January 15, 2022 Report Posted January 15, 2022 Apologies, if this has been asked and answered somewhere before, but is it possible to have the cabin announcements automate? It would be a ton more immersive if it was triggered somehow. Thanks so much Len 1 Quote
JetNoise Posted January 15, 2022 Report Posted January 15, 2022 9 hours ago, leinsters said: Apologies, if this has been asked and answered somewhere before, but is it possible to have the cabin announcements automate? It would be a ton more immersive if it was triggered somehow. Thanks so much Len Immersive ;-) ? Its not triggered automatically in the real thing ... Oliver Quote
leinsters Posted January 15, 2022 Author Report Posted January 15, 2022 5 hours ago, JetNoise said: Immersive ;-) ? Its not triggered automatically in the real thing ... Oliver Thanks for sharing your deeply knowledgeable insight Oliver, Not being a corporate pilot, I didn't realize that in the real thing the pilot had to get out of his seat, head over to the touch screen panel above the sink, press an announcement button, and then head back to his seat each time. But now I know ;-) 5 2 Quote
tekrc Posted January 15, 2022 Report Posted January 15, 2022 tbh if we could get this as a popout bindable to a key I would have less issue with it. approaches/departures can be a bit fast paced especially on vatsim. an option to at least do that would be nice so I dont have to leave the controls to fumble with the screen (considering the non interactive cabin display is a pop out I find this fair) 1 Quote
PhilippK Posted January 15, 2022 Report Posted January 15, 2022 If you want you could bind that panel to a button on your keyboard. I’m not sure how exactly the binding was named, but it is available under the aircraft-specific keys. Just give it a try. It helps a lot. 1 Quote
Pils Posted January 15, 2022 Report Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, leinsters said: Thanks for sharing your deeply knowledgeable insight Oliver, Not being a corporate pilot, I didn't realize that in the real thing the pilot had to get out of his seat, head over to the touch screen panel above the sink, press an announcement button, and then head back to his seat each time. But now I know ;-) When a cabin attendant is not onboard the pilots have a version of the panel on their iPads hooked into the cabin WiFi. For now this can be emulated by using the pop up, available via key bind. Edited January 15, 2022 by Pils 1 Quote
JetNoise Posted January 15, 2022 Report Posted January 15, 2022 16 minutes ago, Pils said: When a cabin attendant is not onboard the pilots have a version of the panel on their iPads hooked into the cabin WiFi. For now this can be emulated by using the pop up, available via key bind. There you go @leinsters... Thank you Pils... Quote
leinsters Posted January 15, 2022 Author Report Posted January 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Pils said: When a cabin attendant is not onboard the pilots have a version of the panel on their iPads hooked into the cabin WiFi. For now this can be emulated by using the pop up, available via key bind. Nice! thanks @Pils Quote
adf714 Posted January 15, 2022 Report Posted January 15, 2022 Slightly off topic here, but do Challenger 650s frequently operate with flight attendants? I'm sure it varies from operator to operator, but just trying to get a feel for real-world ops. Quote
Pils Posted January 15, 2022 Report Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, adf714 said: Slightly off topic here, but do Challenger 650s frequently operate with flight attendants? I'm sure it varies from operator to operator, but just trying to get a feel for real-world ops. What we’ve been told, and this is from a small number of operators but it sounds reasonable to me, is that if the principal owner is onboard then an attendant isn’t necessary (though they may want one anyway, if they had guests, for example) unless the flight is transatlantic (if I remember correctly). However, if it’s charter passengers then an attendant will usually be there to help them with any questions, service, and well, to make sure they behave. Edited January 15, 2022 by Pils Quote
pcartier1960 Posted January 15, 2022 Report Posted January 15, 2022 6 hours ago, leinsters said: Thanks for sharing your deeply knowledgeable insight Oliver, Not being a corporate pilot, I didn't realize that in the real thing the pilot had to get out of his seat, head over to the touch screen panel above the sink, press an announcement button, and then head back to his seat each time. But now I know ;-) Now this made me laugh! made my day. 1 Quote
JetNoise Posted January 16, 2022 Report Posted January 16, 2022 7 hours ago, pcartier1960 said: Now this made me laugh! made my day. Great you had a good laugh, but what is wrong with what I said ?? L?et me know ?? Quote
pcartier1960 Posted January 16, 2022 Report Posted January 16, 2022 Nothing, I was laughing at this statement: "I didn't realize that in the real thing the pilot had to get out of his seat, head over to the touch screen panel above the sink, press an announcement button, and then head back to his seat each time" Can you imagine what that would look like! Quote
JetNoise Posted January 16, 2022 Report Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, pcartier1960 said: Nothing, I was laughing at this statement: "I didn't realize that in the real thing the pilot had to get out of his seat, head over to the touch screen panel above the sink, press an announcement button, and then head back to his seat each time" Can you imagine what that would look like! Right, but you have to get out of your seat (or your 2nd pilot !! ), welcome your customers, close the door, close the curtain, do the pax brief verbally or by tablet (if not available via remote on your EFB), close the cabin door, IF you don't have the luxury of having a flight attendant. For the Landing announcement I'll get out of my seat ( while Toto is flying the airplane) , hit that button on that console, have a chat with my pax and go for a P. That is immersive... 2nd, and thats regarding the OP: I've seen many automatically triggered simulations of pax briefings/announcements etc. They All don't work well BECAUSE of the triggers you need to use and combine. Like: below 10000ft and Landing lights on. Strobe lights on when entering the rwy and so on. What about when crossing a rwy during taxy then ? What about high altitude airports, what about changing baro around FL 100 when descending below your transition alt (Europe) and end up above 100 again because of the baro change.... What about the turbulence announcements? When will they kick on? Everytime xplane updates its weather (with wind dir changes) ! Not immersive in any way, THAT'S IMO (and experience) Oliver Edited January 16, 2022 by JetNoise Quote
jrrogers Posted January 23, 2022 Report Posted January 23, 2022 On 1/15/2022 at 11:13 AM, Pils said: When a cabin attendant is not onboard the pilots have a version of the panel on their iPads hooked into the cabin WiFi. For now this can be emulated by using the pop up, available via key bind. If this is the case then could something similar be added to the Avitab tablet? Quote
Pils Posted January 23, 2022 Report Posted January 23, 2022 1 minute ago, jrrogers said: If this is the case then could something similar be added to the Avitab tablet? Possibly. But it would require a means to swap between AviTab and the panel, which has some design complications. I’ll pass on the suggestion. Quote
-Paul- Posted January 23, 2022 Report Posted January 23, 2022 I fly in VR and have a assigned a button on the controller to open the panel. I can then position this to one side and operate as required. 1 1 Quote
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