Lensman6 Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 Loving the TBM-900. Running X-Plane betas and the TBM worked fine until Beta13. From that point forward, can't so much as move the bar on the overhead. Plane is completely unusable. What is the plan to update the aircraft to work with new X-Plane? Waiting for final release to make the update? Please advise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Russell Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Lensman6 said: Loving the TBM-900. Running X-Plane betas and the TBM worked fine until Beta13. From that point forward, can't so much as move the bar on the overhead. Plane is completely unusable. What is the plan to update the aircraft to work with new X-Plane? Waiting for final release to make the update? Please advise. Did you install a Gizmo beta? Did you keep it up to date? Attach a copy of X-Plane / Log.txt if in doubt. Edited July 20, 2020 by Ben Russell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lensman6 Posted July 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 I did not install Gizmo beta. Is that required?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Russell Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, Lensman6 said: I did not install Gizmo beta. Is that required?? No. But recent versions had an expiry timer and if you haven't run X-Plane for some time it might have been causing an issue without you realising. As you don't use the beta, this does not apply to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpipe Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 Can confirm i have been flying the TBM900 throughout the beta and am now on b15 and working flawlessly really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arb65912 Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 Works for me too in B15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lensman6 Posted July 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 OK, I will try a reinstall of the aircraft. Mine worked flawlessly up to B13 then nothing. When I reinstall the plane, will I lose all my history and airframes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lensman6 Posted July 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 Reinstall of aircraft did NOT fix the problem. It did wipe out all customizations though :-( Short of reinstalling X-Plane entirely, any other suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arb65912 Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 11 hours ago, Lensman6 said: Reinstall of aircraft did NOT fix the problem. It did wipe out all customizations though :-( Short of reinstalling X-Plane entirely, any other suggestions? Maybe temporarily move other plugins away from plugins folder just to try... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lensman6 Posted August 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 The saga continues. I completely removed X-Plane and reinstalled from scratch. No plugins. Now running RC2. Reinstalled TBM latest version. Still no joy. exactly the same problem. What log files can I look at to troubleshoot this further? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 The issue you describe sounds like an activation issue. Can you please attach your Log.txt file from your X-Plane folder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lensman6 Posted August 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 Everything was activated (both X-Plane and the TBM) previously and this time around also. Log.txt attached here. Boot X-Plane, start new flight, select TBM at SeaTac. Log.txt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lensman6 Posted August 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 Here is GizmoLog showing valid license. GizmoLog.txt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 Your log shows no systems plugin is present or even trying to be loaded. I suspect you have an antivirus that is running during the TBM install which has quarantined or blocked it from being installed, and this is the source of your issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lensman6 Posted August 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 Will disable and reinstall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lensman6 Posted August 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) uninstalled/reinstalled TBM with AV shutdown. Logs attached. no diff in behavior. Can you tell me what should have loaded and didn't? AV remained off for X-Plane startup and test. GizmoLog.txt Log.txt Edited August 30, 2020 by Lensman6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lensman6 Posted August 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 stock Laminar planes work properly 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 Well, we're closer. Re-installing with the AV off did get the files necessary there, but it looks like your computer is struggling: G:\X-Plane 11/Aircraft/X-Aviation/TBM-900/plugins/systems/win_x64/systems.xpl : Error Code = 1450 : Insufficient system resources exist to complete the requested service. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-performance/how-to-resolve-error-1450-insufficient-system/ede7ec19-138a-4840-bf36-593e2b42b0d0 The above is someone with a similar problem in Windows. My first advice would be restarting your computer and trying again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lensman6 Posted August 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 what is the latest version of Windows 10 you have used this with? I'm currently running the most recent feature update, version 2004. Will give some of this a try in the coming week and post back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 Just now, Lensman6 said: what is the latest version of Windows 10 you have used this with? I'm currently running the most recent feature update, version 2004. Will give some of this a try in the coming week and post back. I personally do not use Windows, but considering most people have automatic updates on Win 10, I'm sure thousands of our current users are. I'd venture to say this has nothing to do with that. Again, try restarting your computer first, then go from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goran_M Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 A streamer has just flown the TBM a few days ago after the last major update to Windows 10. If your crashbar is not moving, there is something in your hardware of your X-Plane install that is not allowing it. Can you install a second copy of X-Plane, with just the TBM and test again. Make sure all AV software is either off, or you add the X-Plane folder as an exception to your AV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius_B Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 On 6/16/2020 at 6:51 PM, skiselkov said: Found the issue with the Localizers. X-Plane 11.50b10 changed one element of the localizer nav data encoding (bearing), which broke the custom localizer simulation code in the TBM. Compatibility workaround will be included in the next TBM update. Hi Guys, @Goran_M When will the update for the TBM will come, to fix some of the issues that we know about? As everyone says, we like the looks of the new FS2020, but the flight models are still far from being polished and we enjoy the TBM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lensman6 Posted September 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 This is resolved. Something with anti-virus was causing the issue. I shutdown AV (TotalAV BTW), installed second copy of X-Plane, updated to 11.50r3, loaded TBM, and everything is working. Have put the X-Plane folder in the AV exclusions and hopefully will be no more issues. Now to reset all the presets and what not. @Marius_B I too purchased and downloaded FS2020 and flew the TBM. FS2020 is a toy compared to X-Plane. It does do a much better job of rendering the world but the flight model is lacking and the cockpits are Fisher-Price like. Save your money and wait for them to clean this up Looking forward to next TBM update. Any plans for newer model TBM sims?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goran_M Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 12 hours ago, Marius_B said: Hi Guys, @Goran_M When will the update for the TBM will come, to fix some of the issues that we know about? As everyone says, we like the looks of the new FS2020, but the flight models are still far from being polished and we enjoy the TBM No ETA yet. There are still a few issues left to address. 3 hours ago, Lensman6 said: Any plans for newer model TBM sims?? No plans at this time. Focus in on the CL650. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldflyguy Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Goran_M said: but the flight models are still far from being polished Yes, the flight model(s) in MSFS is the only thing that's "far from being polished" in MSFS said no one ever. What's the point of that statement? MSFS is new, streams ortho (very convenient) and does a nice sky. Not actual weather, just a nice sky picture. Purchased the super deluxe or whatever and am looking forward to see where it goes. Right now it's just a promising public early access beta that will probably require a lengthy period of patches and fixes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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