Oh I am not a hater. I love the X Plane product. I do have Urban Maxx and am very happy with this add on, as with a lot of the conversions that I have done. I mean even if they just gave it 30 mins (figure of speech), cutting the section of the bay out. So as both runway 34L and 34R at least have their "toes" in the water so to speak. Its just one of those airports that is amazing to fly into, thats all. Teddit