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Yes, I remember going through this with XP8 and XP9...this time it´s a bit different, though. There has been a marketing hype buildup with videos and screenshots. The whole community (this includes a lot of FSX users) is very excited about this release and everyone has high expectations. Austin has made some pretty big remarks. People expect XP10 to deliver right away. A first impression is a lasting one - especially if it is your first contact with X-Plane. There is no clear mention of the "beta"-nature that this demo has on the website. Disappointment will run high I fear. I am here to stay - I am just afraid that this will not be an ideal start for XP10 as a competing product in the flight-simulator market as a whole. Jan

The thing I find funny is: First it's a Beta Version (another word for work in progress) , so why are SOOOO many people trying to run this full tilt. Go with the flow... this SIM rocks!

Great link! Guys, AA at 4 is more than enough. I wouldn't use xp9 settings as a comparison, this is totally different.

Hi Arti, Yeah sure, as soon as we'll have more information on xp10 scenery developpement i will use every new feature possible. Ben

Height extraction fixed, no more crashs and good height values , an exemple on business district of la Defense, Paris : I'll update the files tomorow after a few more tests.

I'm somewhere in the middle between not happy and definately happy. For one, those are some great features and design that went into this sim. But the ATI Radeon HD5870, wich I also have, does struggle. Like you say, it is not really that much dependend on the resolution. I also gain minimal when turning it down. Biggest effect against FSP is shadows (I won't use Global shadows), HDR (but only in 3D cockpit view), water effects (I'll use very low) and Clouds (lowered it to 10%). The HD5870 seems to handle it very well to display a large amount of objects (buildungs, streets) without too much impact. I have forests now at "filled in", as buildings and streets are much more required to make up the "plausible world". With lots of buildings and the like, it is obvious that this is a beautiful sim. It is even better around smaller cities in the demo region, where the housings and bridges and smaller streets really make a perfect impression. So here's my plan: - stop the trial and error with the demo. I have a good impression about what to expect now and I know I will be able to find settings that I can live with, although those won't be the ones I may have dreamed of. - will wait now for Aerosoft to finish their version, hopefully including a 10.1 or even 10.2. don't wanna go crazy with the bugs now. the release canditate/beta status is very obvious. - get me a graphics card update, some next gen AMD/ATI, as soon as they are avaiable sometime in 2012 (and fit into the Mac Pro). I want that HDR. I want those global shadows. That's for sure and worth an upgrade. Meanwhile I keep my fingers crossed for an early X-Plane 10 64-bit. Yes, I already had my first "Xmapped out of memomory" with version 10. Good old friend, still around . But please, I am curious, because I don't exactly understand: Do we use HDR with volumetric fog and per pixel lightning, or does it replace those, make them unnecessary, like it does with the standard anti aliasing?

Been a while since ive been on here, but XP10 had me having to post, first off it looks "ok" not much better than XP9 really, yes the raods are nice and the night lighting etc, but the textures are still very amateurish. Next up is performance, on my 2500K@5.2ghz and ATi HD6970 2GB and all left on default i get no more than 22fps, im up to date with all drivers, think it needs a lot of optimizing yet.

I am not happy Hello and good morning everyone X-plane 10 demo was downloading last night while flying a couple legs from the Caribean tour. Once downloaded, I realized that no installation was required, which is cool. SO I launch the thing. Now, before I go any further, let me provide you with the specs of my computer: :( :( - Intel i7 core - 24 Gb of RAM (yes, 24) - ATI Radeon HD5870 With almost everything turned on to medium and high in X-plane 9, I get easily 40 fps. In X-plane 10, I spent 30 minutes trying to figure out how to NOT have a slideshow. OK, I don't understand how people can actually run the sim. I had to turn down the texture res to Medium. With BLUE SKIES, I can NEVER get more than 18 fps, with settings at medium-low, and with HDR, which does not seem to affect a lot at the FPS level, which is good news. Shadowing is horrible. I tried every setting, and again, removing the shadowing, I gained about 1-2 fps. TRees to sparse, AIrport detail and all other settings to default. "what the hell" is what I'm thinking. I was reading the posts on the internet on the X_plane developer blog, and they said many times that if good performance on X-plane 9, then X-plane 10 would be similar or even better!!!! Let's just say that, to even REACH 20 fps, I had to remove traffic completely, and set everything to blue skies. Setting clouds in there, I go below the mark of 10 fps. I just don't get it. I tried different resolution, because I thought that maybe my three monitors configuration was the problem, so I set it to 1 monitor in 1980x1080-16 bit. Same thing. Gainned about 1 fps overall. I am REAAALLY Disapointed. Now, I have not updated my display drivers for a looooong time, but I can't believe that this could actually be the solution. How would display drivers suddently give me the missing 20fps to reach 30fps ? OH I forgot to mention something, this is not even in KSEA, this is at a nearby airport in the coutry side near KSEA, cause KSEA... forget it. Slideshow. and there are bugs all over the thing. I flew over the coutry side.. there are houses line up in the middle of the forest... with no roads (I"ll take screengrabs when I can). Weather looks good....but to me, it is unusable the sun looks amazing when it reflects in the water. I will update my display drivers tonight and report back. In the meantime, id be interested to see what people have been getting as fps, WITH and WITHOUT HDR enabled. OK guys, If you are going to run XP-10 without clouds and without HDR... might as well stay with XP9 ???? that's what I think. Slideshow, even with a new system so they better improve... I don't even want to think of using the CRJ at the moment. Thank you and most importantly... good luck ??? here's the post I'm referring to, only 2 months old, and with the same card that I have: the performance he states are definitely far from what I am getting: http://www.x-plane.com/blog/2011/10/x-plane-10-and-gpu-power/ Patrick

nope. it did set it to my XP9 settings with no new rendering features and the exact same 5 AI planes.... performance is only half of what XP9 gives me. I'm happy to wait for 10.1 or 10.2 and have a second look (waiting for aerosoft version). edit: The really strange thing, apart from the countless bugs I've seen (no issue, I understand the beta state of things) with my 3x10mins, is that even with dialed down settings and fps from 25-40 everything does not feel smooth. views still pan like it would be 9 fps, especially in the cockpits. it is obvious where version 10 is heading, the great features I wished for are there (wheather and AI/ATC), but if performance does not improve a lot, then … don't know … I need to buy another, an even better Mac Pro… ? can't do, my system needs to last at least another 3 years from now.

You just might be lucky enough to take that long...hopefully some of the worst bugs will be fixed by the time you download! I am having trouble to stay above 20fps with some decent rendering options around default KSEA - also get graphical errors on some settings (green water, red runways etc.). The shadows are killing my framerate and the in-cockpit-shadows are jittering all over the place dependent on the camera angle (which shouldnt affect those). The whole view system has been redone (not sure if to the better) and I can´t set up my joystick system because X-Plane freezes whenever I access the "axis" screen... I foresee a public relations disaster descending upon Laminar. I know one guy who won´t care about it, though... just blast some more toy rockets into your neighbours house, I guess... Jan (disappointed, if you can´t tell)