head_check Posted March 24, 2016 Report Posted March 24, 2016 Dear Developer, Dear SAAB fan, and livery-maker Thank You very much for Your Saab 340A. It is realy the wunderfull model. But it would even better if the airborn version (SAAB 340 Erieye) would have the appropriate cabin with three operator seats, electrical cabinets and operator consoles. It would be great to have this version. It can be an official payware addon or three part product (only interior), but - it must be It must be for SAAB fans that want simulate the military version of the aircraft. Can i hope, that the Erieye interior will be made some time from somebody. I personaly, for example, would buy it as separatly addon to high price. Quote
Cameron Posted March 24, 2016 Report Posted March 24, 2016 While I agree it would be cool, we've discovered a lesson during this products lifetime. We thought variants would be an effective way to give people good variety, and that there would be many who use all, but the truth is only about 2% of Saab 340A customers use the cargo or AEW variant. Because of this, going into the future we've agreed not to do multiple variants on new products. So with that said, while it would be fun, the demand necessary to generate the revenue and pay back the cost of development for this is simply not there. 1 Quote
-VETTE Posted March 24, 2016 Report Posted March 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Cameron said: Because of this, going into the future we've agreed not to do multiple variants on new products. This worries me. In my opinion, variation is one thing that can help make a plane great. I know that a lot of people use the cargo variant. I agree on not modeling a completely new interior for the AEW variant, as I don't know anyone who uses that, but I really hope that y'all choose to continue making variants of your aircraft. Also, does this mean that there will never be a Saab 340B? -VETTE Quote
Cameron Posted March 24, 2016 Report Posted March 24, 2016 6 minutes ago, -VETTE said: In my opinion, variation is one thing that can help make a plane great Making a plane great and making money FOR making the plane great are two different things. This is a business first and foremost. People have families and lives, and these things must be taken into account when dedicating resources to projects. 1 Quote
head_check Posted March 24, 2016 Author Report Posted March 24, 2016 Dear Cameron, With AEW it's Your position clear. Thank You. To not make a new topic i ask hear my questions about Datarefs / Custom commands. I can not find custom command for the props sinchronization switch. But it has very inconvenient position for Cap How can i assign it on some knob or switch on my Saitek Rhino throttle device? Second question is about datarefs / custom commands for baro settings - baro std / baro neg / baro ps What of commands can i assign to knobs to control this datarefs? Thank You Quote
JGregory Posted March 24, 2016 Report Posted March 24, 2016 There are not any custom commands available for those functions. You could use the following DataRefs... LES/saab/prop/prop_sync_toggle LES/saab/baro_in_hg_dial_pilot LES/saab/baro_in_hg_dial_copilot 1 Quote
head_check Posted March 24, 2016 Author Report Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) Thank You, Jim! Edited March 24, 2016 by head_check Quote
Goran_M Posted March 24, 2016 Report Posted March 24, 2016 9 hours ago, -VETTE said: Also, does this mean that there will never be a Saab 340B? -VETTE Never say never 2 Quote
head_check Posted April 8, 2016 Author Report Posted April 8, 2016 Dear Gregory! Can You post the datarefs for opening the main door. All operations for opening and closing - unlock..........turn the attendant seat.....ramp Thank You very much! Quote
birdy.dma Posted April 8, 2016 Report Posted April 8, 2016 Datarefs (at least the datarefs i use in my smartcopilot.cfg file): LES/saab/door/cockpit_open_close LES/saab/door/cockpit_open_close_pos LES/saab/door/cockpit_latch LES/saab/door/cockpit_lock LES/saab/cp_door_window_cover LES/saab/door/cockpit_hatch_pos LES/saab/entry_stairs_fold_pos LES/saab/entry_stair_slide_pos LES/saab/cabin_attendant_seat_pos Commands: LES/CMD/cabin_attendant_seat LES/CMD/door/entry_door LES/CMD/door/entry_door_handle LES/CMD/door/entry_door_lock Quote
head_check Posted April 8, 2016 Author Report Posted April 8, 2016 Thank You very much! To close most be used the "neg" datarefs? Quote
birdy.dma Posted April 8, 2016 Report Posted April 8, 2016 What do you mean by "neg" datarefs? Those commands for example (commands are not datarefs):: LES/CMD/autopilot/APCP/pitch_wheel_pos LES/CMD/autopilot/APCP/pitch_wheel_neg Quote
head_check Posted April 8, 2016 Author Report Posted April 8, 2016 Ye, realy i need all commands to open the main door and to close it I wonna make via Python two combined commands for open and close (with animation of stair) for two knobs one for open (command group), another - for close (command group) My reason is start from cold and dark from appron (with Ground Handling deluxe from Jar) and not from cabin with closed doors It's for videos ))) Thank Yoy Quote
Goran_M Posted April 8, 2016 Report Posted April 8, 2016 The datarefs to open and close are the same. The values are what's different. Closed is 1 and open is 0. Quote
head_check Posted April 9, 2016 Author Report Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) Also, it works with 3 commands It is impossible to do this operations parallel, only serial ==================== [SAAB Maindoor lock] new_command=maindoor_lock main_command=LES/CMD/door/entry_door_lock [SAAB Maindoor Handle] new_command=maindoor_handle main_command=LES/CMD/door/entry_door_handle, LES/CMD/cabin_attendant_seat [SAAB Maindoor open] new_command=maindoor_open main_command=LES/CMD/door/entry_door ===================== Now I need the commands (two) for stair: 1. stair fold 2. stair slide Or exists only datarefs for stair? ======================== I have problem with cargo door, the handle of that door is inoperativ at me. It's a bug? Please help me Thank You! Edited April 9, 2016 by head_check Quote
birdy.dma Posted April 9, 2016 Report Posted April 9, 2016 Download my last smartopilot.cfg file. Open it with notepad or something else. You will find here al lot the datarefs and commands you are looking for. Quote
JGregory Posted April 9, 2016 Report Posted April 9, 2016 4 hours ago, head_check said: I have problem with cargo door, the handle of that door is inoperativ at me. It's a bug? There is no problem with the cargo door/handle. Quote
birdy.dma Posted April 9, 2016 Report Posted April 9, 2016 2 hours ago, JGregory said: There is no problem with the cargo door/handle. Confirmed. But you can't open the cargo door if you go outside the plane using MAJ+8. You have to use the check lists. Quote
JGregory Posted April 9, 2016 Report Posted April 9, 2016 24 minutes ago, birdy.dma said: But you can't open the cargo door if you go outside the plane using MAJ+8. You have to use the check lists. Actually, you can open the cargo door from the outside, you just need to be in 3D cockpit mode. 1 Quote
birdy.dma Posted April 9, 2016 Report Posted April 9, 2016 Thank you JGregory. I will have a try, and report in case of problem. Quote
head_check Posted April 9, 2016 Author Report Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) 6 hours ago, JGregory said: Actually, you can open the cargo door from the outside, you just need to be in 3D cockpit mode. Thank You, Gantlemans Now I have that wanted With seen from appron I call van with crew (Ground Handling Deluxe Jar), than I open the main door, and put down the stire (with seen from appron) Than I give power to the craft (batteries, external power...etc...----> with seen on overhad from cockpit + Gizmo SAAB-GH (look around) menu) Than I call tanker from Ground Handling (Jar) --- only animation, for developer - to make tanking menu activated after tanker comming Sorry Gantlemans, but it now the standart for X-Plane, NO??? than unlock and open the Cargo door + call the loader from Ground handling Deluxe (Jar) Than I call the Neoplan with Pax'es from Ground Handling Deluxe (Jar) ================= preparations in the cockpit and around craft according check list ================= Than - all Ground Handling (Jar) devices back/hide Cargo Door close and lock, Main door stair (two commands= two buttons) back, main door close (3 commands - 4 commands/buttons with command for attendant seat), Than ---> according chek list ))) Config file for Python (xjoymap-script (.ini file=config) scripts for Python XP Interface): first strike simulate axis for control of both condition levers between min and max positions second command control the prop synchronisation swich (on/off) than - doors at the end - control of volume from communications channels COM1 and COM2).... (on/off) ================================================== [Saab Condition Levers] axis=24 dataref=LES/saab/CL/manip_common(float) drl=0.50 drh=0.90 [SAAB Prop Synchronization] new_command=prop_synch dataref=LES/saab/prop/prop_sync_toggle values = 0, 1 [SAAB Maindoor lock] new_command=maindoor_lock main_command=LES/CMD/door/entry_door_lock [SAAB Maindoor Handle] new_command=maindoor_handle main_command=LES/CMD/door/entry_door_handle [SAAB Maindoor open] new_command=maindoor_open main_command=LES/CMD/door/entry_door [SAAB Attendant Seat] new_command=attendant_seat main_command=LES/CMD/cabin_attendant_seat [SAAB Stair fold] new_command=stair_fold main_command=LES/CMD/stairs/fold [SAAB Stair slide] new_command=stair_slide main_command=LES/CMD/stairs/slide [SAAB Сargodoor handle] new_command=Cargodoor_handle main_command=LES/CMD/door/cargo_door_handle [SAAB Cargodoor open] new_command=Cargodoor_open main_command=LES/CMD/door/cargo_door [Saab Monitor COM1] new_command=monitor_COM1 dataref=LES/saab/ACP/vol_com1_pilot values = 0, 1 [Saab Monitor COM2] new_command=monitor_COM2 dataref=LES/saab/ACP/vol_com2_pilot values = 0, 1 Edited April 9, 2016 by head_check Quote
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