ca177 Posted 20 hours ago Report Posted 20 hours ago Hi All, I have a fresh copy of the Challenger 650 in X-Plane 12.4.0-b2 that will crash to desktop immediately after clicking enter FBO and confirm. A pop up indicating "A plugin manager internal error has been detected. theWindow ->visible" shows up. I do not have the DataRefTool installed. Log file is also attached. Please let me know how to get around this. Thank you, Zicheng Log.txt Quote
rylabics Posted 11 hours ago Report Posted 11 hours ago Hi I had this problem too. It has to be some window that opens during flight. In my case was Xchecklist that is probably not yet compatible with XP12.4....good luck! Quote
ca177 Posted 3 hours ago Author Report Posted 3 hours ago 16 hours ago, Pils said: You’ll need to downgrade. Thank you. What's the last X-Plane version that the CL650 is compatible with? Quote
Pils Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, ca177 said: Thank you. What's the last X-Plane version that the CL650 is compatible with? Beta 1 if you still have it. Otherwise 12.3. Quote
birdy.dma Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, ca177 said: Thank you. What's the last X-Plane version that the CL650 is compatible with? Downgrade to XP12.3, waiting for XP12.4 RC. Quote
Pils Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 9 hours ago, rylabics said: Hi I had this problem too. It has to be some window that opens during flight. In my case was Xchecklist that is probably not yet compatible with XP12.4....good luck! Yes, it's possible the corruption comes from another plugin also. So removing them all is an option. May or may not work though. Quote
diamonddriller Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago In my case, using a Mac Studio and running XP12 in MacOS Tahoe 26.2 under Rosetta, the plane has a big red X in one of the glass panels, stating that the plane is not activated. Studying both the older Gizmo activation and newer X-Aviation panels show that the plane is licensed. Running 12.4.0-b2 as above. As this plane is one of the newer products in the X-Aviation fleet, is it possible to get it to work natively in ARM64? I do see that earlier products, which had a lot of their systems running with Gizmo64, may well be much more of a problem for a small team, and I guess (to be honest) that the work involved would not bring in enough money to cover the cost in time to do this work. Some of the planes are still not compatible with XP12. I would, however, not expect Cameron to give away such upgrades, because they are not bug fixes, nor minor additions to functionality. A sensible charge is reasonable. In fact, other developers are charging, often like a completely new product, but giving a (say) 20% discount for customers who own an earlier version. The CL650 worked with XP11 from the start, and was working in 12 in 2022, so the conversion to ARM64 really should not warrant buying the product again. However, we Mac users (a minority of the user base) are probably a bit surprised that the genius who is Toto, did not make the plane ARM compatible from the word go. After all, Macs were being produced with ARM chips in late 2020, and the transition from Intel was almost complete by 2022! Oh well, I can use the 525 in the meantime Quote
Pils Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 17 minutes ago, diamonddriller said: get it to work natively in ARM64 Yes, it'll be in the next update (ETA unknown). 18 minutes ago, diamonddriller said: conversion to ARM64 really should not warrant buying the product again It won't. 18 minutes ago, diamonddriller said: did not make the plane ARM compatible from the word go Everything about the plane itself is compatible (bugs not withstanding). It's only Gizmo that isn't. Quote
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