Carenado enters X-Plane market !

[Oliver]

I'll be glad when V10 ships.  I find myself doing four nearly payware quality aircraft in about 8 months of man-hours.  I don't think many people develop as fast as some of the team members I'm fortunate to associate with..but we are all on V10 stuff at the moment.  I will be excited to devote a good portion of time to other aircraft as soon as possible.

Well take your time your addons are so amazing so no rush  ;D

[Goran_M]

That panel looks great, Tom. 

Good competition.

[MdMax]

I sent my post to several forums when I saw the official Carenado news on their site and on the AVSIM forums. Of course, sending something like my post on the .org would mean breaking the .org rules and get banned. I'm glad .org members are now also able to read this, even if it's a copy/paste without links, and I hope Boogie84 will not come into troubles because of his link in the .org thread.

In October 2004, I bought their great Cessna 210M Centurion II for FS2004. It is high quality, and I saw on Aviator 90 videos that they still have this quality today.

Will they be able to reach the quality and standards of some X-Plane add-ons with manipulators, 3D gauges and needles, circuit breakers, buttons you can really "push" ? I don't know. But I'm sure there's at least one point that will be highly improved compared to their MSFS versions: the flight dynamics.

Tom your Caravan looks awesome.  ;D Credit card ready !

[tkyler]

That panel looks great, Tom

It does...wish I had done it!  :-)

om your Caravan looks awesome

Thanks Georges...this is a collaboration though and I think the real talent comes from my other teammates.  As the quality really improves in x-plane, many of us find it very advantages now to team up and exploit team members max efficiencies and talents to complete project faster and better. 

[dpny]

As an aside, I wonder what the learning curve will be for those switching from lookup tables to Austin's implementation of blade theory.

[Goran_M]

It does...wish I had done it!  :-)

ahhh, so ****** strikes again.

His work is truly brilliant.

(Name was edited out by me)

[Oliver]

That panel looks great, Tom

It does...wish I had done it!  :-)

om your Caravan looks awesome

Thanks Georges...this is a collaboration though and I think the real talent comes from my other teammates.  As the quality really improves in x-plane, many of us find it very advantages now to team up and exploit team members max efficiencies and talents to complete project faster and better. 

Also Tom, looks as if all gauges are in 3D, but just to make sure are they? and will this have full night lighting?

[tkyler]

I don't want to detract from the topic too much, this is about carenado and his thunder......so until we fire up another thread..this will be all I'll say.  We're certainly applying everything we've learned into this project.  It'll have just about every bell and whistle we feel we can conjour up, including full night lighting...cargo version and some other fun stuff too.

As an aside, I wonder what the learning curve will be for those switching from lookup tables to Austin's implementation of blade theory.

I have to think it's easier in my opinion..a bit more "natural" to the brain.   I did have discussions with the Carenado guys regarding porting stuff to x-plane several months back.....gave them my synopsis on the porting process and once I explained what I knew, I never heard back from them.  I myself thought that was in poor taste....something org administration would do but I've gotten used to it I guess.  It's why I'm here after all!    I am truly excited to work with the very small group of special people that I do.

[dpny]

As pointed out at the .org: "Carenado is a Spanish word, so I'm assuming they mean "Compromiso" which is Spanish for "commitment."

[woweezowee]

finally, Tom . Thank you very much for posting. Now I know it's for real. A very good caravan for x-plane. What a hell of a long waiting time for this one.

AND I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER. !!!  

My very own FSEconomy C208 is polished and waiting for me to take her in the air.

[Simmo W]

Tom, my first comment that I thought the latest xplane products were BETTER than Carenado was quite prescient eh? that looks stunning, rivalling Nils work there, and certainly making the FSX stuff look like a 2d panel.

[Kesomir]

I agree with this, but who knows, maybe Carenado's offering for x-plane will be better than those for FSX - haven't seen a cockpit yet, here's hoping.

[Breyne]

Competition is always good, just make the products better and is the consumer who wins.

Looking their site, they have very good planes, hope other developer from FS do the some.

[Wynthorpe]

Carenado WERE good a couple of years ago, but now we have the likes of the MU2 (and the upcoming v1.5) and the duchess and other available at XA and they are blowing Carenado out the water.

[Paraffin]

That's great news, Tom! I'll be standing in line here for the Caravan, credit card ready.

(Edit): Oh, and it's also good to hear there will be a cargo version. That cabin view you posted is looking way to plush and comfy for my typical FSE bush plane ops.

[Kesomir]

Carenado WERE good a couple of years ago, but now we have the likes of the MU2 (and the upcoming v1.5) and the duchess and other available at XA and they are blowing Carenado out the water.

Blowing Carenado's old stuff out of the water, maybe. Not that new caravan though, just look at the screens

Admittedly those look like renders, but still sweet

[tkyler]

Carenado WERE good a couple of years ago, but now we have the likes of the MU2 (and the upcoming v1.5) and the duchess and other available at XA and they are blowing Carenado out the water.

One thing that is important to point out is that things progress..both technology and with that skills and opportunity.  Carenado has been around a long time and the stuff they had/have were top of the game for flight simming.  Just like the MU-2, those works though are not taking advantage of the latest and greatest.   The new caravan for FSX by Carenado is well above his previous works in quality and detail and I expect further improvement as time goes on.

To say that one's works is better than another is to imply that one is better or more capable than another and that is not always the case.  Jason, for example, prefers his style as does his customers...doesn't man he's less of a developer or incapable..he just chooses his path.  Some designers make calculated choices for whatever reasons.  I think Carenado/Fernando is super talented and his stuff is at the top of the quality ladder.  I think our best x-plane developers are top of the quality ladder also...I don't think you could say that Carenado is better than us any more than I'd say we're better than them.  I think perhaps the x-plane fraternity might feel a little defensive to have such a MSFS big-wig come into our camp and just start taking over...but this is good for the community.  The only unknown is the flight models..and how robust they'll be.  I'm not sure if Carenado is doing it in house or sourcing a x-plane developer.   Taking note of the frequenters of the Carenado thread at the org though...I have my suspicions and if it's who I think it is, then I'll probably have to refrain from purchasing the wonderful artwork of Carenado....nobody hangs around in "their own thread" more than this guy.

[Wynthorpe]

Carenado WERE good a couple of years ago, but now we have the likes of the MU2 (and the upcoming v1.5) and the duchess and other available at XA and they are blowing Carenado out the water.

One thing that is important to point out is that things progress..both technology and with that skills and opportunity.  Carenado has been around a long time and the stuff they had/have were top of the game for flight simming.  Just like the MU-2, those works though are not taking advantage of the latest and greatest.   The new caravan for FSX by Carenado is well above his previous works in quality and detail and I expect further improvement as time goes on.

To say that one's works is better than another is to imply that one is better or more capable than another and that is not always the case.  Jason, for example, prefers his style as does his customers...doesn't man he's less of a developer or incapable..he just chooses his path.  Some designers make calculated choices for whatever reasons.  I think Carenado/Fernando is super talented and his stuff is at the top of the quality ladder.  I think our best x-plane developers are top of the quality ladder also...I don't think you could say that Carenado is better than us any more than I'd say we're better than them.  I think perhaps the x-plane fraternity might feel a little defensive to have such a MSFS big-wig come into our camp and just start taking over...but this is good for the community.  The only unknown is the flight models..and how robust they'll be.  I'm not sure if Carenado is doing it in house or sourcing a x-plane developer.   Taking note of the frequenters of the Carenado thread at the org though...I have my suspicions and if it's who I think it is, then I'll probably have to refrain from purchasing the wonderful artwork of Carenado....nobody hangs around in "their own thread" more than this guy.

Ive been a massive fan of Carenado through out FS9 and FSX, and had great fun with their products, ive no doubt i'll buy the C208 for FSX also, but i just love the way developers are going for XP.