Why does it CTD when the DataRefTool plugin is loaded?

[flightwusel]

I really love DataRefTool over DataRefEditor.

 

But as mentioned here in the forums in several places X-Planes crashes to desktop with "--=={This application has crashed because of the plugin: Challenger 650 by Hot Start}==--" when the DataRefTool plugin is loaded. (DataRefTool 2.3.0, Challenger 1.7r1, Manjaro Linux)

 

My question here is if we have any idea why that is the case?

[flightwusel]

Ah, by the way: Disabling DataRefTool in the PluginAdmin, then loading into the Challenger, then re-enabling it works for me.

[Pils]

53 minutes ago, flightwusel said:

My question here is if we have any idea why that is the case?

You’d have to ask its author.

[Ben Russell]

All plugins are loaded into a shared memory space.

Any plugin can corrupt any other plugin.

Occasionally this shows up as a reliable and reproducible clash between two of them.

 

[flightwusel]

43 minutes ago, Ben Russell said:

Any plugin can corrupt any other plugin.

Occasionally this shows up as a reliable and reproducible clash between two of them.

1 hour ago, Pils said:

You’d have to ask its author.

I AM asking one of the authors. You don't have to be so mad.

[Pils]

1 hour ago, flightwusel said:

I AM asking one of the authors. You don't have to be so mad.

Sorry for being curt, not my intention to express anger. What I meant was we have discussed this with the Hot Start developer, they are very aware of this issue, and I'm almost 100% certain the CL-650 is using the XPLM SDK in a perfectly acceptable and normal fashion. I am no such confidence in DataRefTool; it is well known to use "hacks" to do its job (I agree, the result is very useful!).

[Cameron]

On 3/29/2023 at 10:50 AM, flightwusel said:

I AM asking one of the authors.

DRT has been known to cause this issue with multiple products on the market. It is not unique to the CL650 from Hotstart. @Pils is right that you should ask this question to the responsible, guilty party at DRT.

[RonMont]

On 3/29/2023 at 8:47 AM, flightwusel said:

Ah, by the way: Disabling DataRefTool in the PluginAdmin, then loading into the Challenger, then re-enabling it works for me.

Happy to hear that, as I am having the same issue and had to revert back to Dataref Editor.

Will test that ASAP.

[RonMont]

Just tested it, and DatarefTool does load.

But it doesn't seem to see the custom CL650 datarefs, even after doing a rescan of all datarefs.