flightwusel Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 I really love DataRefTool over DataRefEditor. But as mentioned here in the forums in several places X-Planes crashes to desktop with "--=={This application has crashed because of the plugin: Challenger 650 by Hot Start}==--" when the DataRefTool plugin is loaded. (DataRefTool 2.3.0, Challenger 1.7r1, Manjaro Linux) My question here is if we have any idea why that is the case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flightwusel Posted March 29 Author Report Share Posted March 29 Ah, by the way: Disabling DataRefTool in the PluginAdmin, then loading into the Challenger, then re-enabling it works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pils Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 53 minutes ago, flightwusel said: My question here is if we have any idea why that is the case? You’d have to ask its author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Russell Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 All plugins are loaded into a shared memory space. Any plugin can corrupt any other plugin. Occasionally this shows up as a reliable and reproducible clash between two of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flightwusel Posted March 29 Author Report Share Posted March 29 43 minutes ago, Ben Russell said: Any plugin can corrupt any other plugin. Occasionally this shows up as a reliable and reproducible clash between two of them. 1 hour ago, Pils said: You’d have to ask its author. I AM asking one of the authors. You don't have to be so mad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pils Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 1 hour ago, flightwusel said: I AM asking one of the authors. You don't have to be so mad. Sorry for being curt, not my intention to express anger. What I meant was we have discussed this with the Hot Start developer, they are very aware of this issue, and I'm almost 100% certain the CL-650 is using the XPLM SDK in a perfectly acceptable and normal fashion. I am no such confidence in DataRefTool; it is well known to use "hacks" to do its job (I agree, the result is very useful!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 On 3/29/2023 at 10:50 AM, flightwusel said: I AM asking one of the authors. DRT has been known to cause this issue with multiple products on the market. It is not unique to the CL650 from Hotstart. @Pils is right that you should ask this question to the responsible, guilty party at DRT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMont Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 On 3/29/2023 at 8:47 AM, flightwusel said: Ah, by the way: Disabling DataRefTool in the PluginAdmin, then loading into the Challenger, then re-enabling it works for me. Happy to hear that, as I am having the same issue and had to revert back to Dataref Editor. Will test that ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMont Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 Just tested it, and DatarefTool does load. But it doesn't seem to see the custom CL650 datarefs, even after doing a rescan of all datarefs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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