Use PL Auto-Latch Saab 340

[Robster]

Hello,
How to use this function,
Because in the preferences, if I don't check it, I won't have any reverse on landing?
So I wonder if I should check this box in the preferences or not?
Thank you for enlightening me.

[Cameron]

The alternative is assigning your joystick or other hardware button to a command where you would have to manually lift the latch (by pressing the button now assigned to the command).

[JGregory]

**************** IMPORTANT: MAKE SURE YOU READ THIS !!! ****************

NOTES:  (Power Lever Auto-Latch / Flight Idle Stop)

We have partially implemented the Saab Flight Idle Stop System.  The logic for the system is complete.  The annunciator is not modeled.  The Override Knob is not modeled.

This new feature should provide much better functionality during the landing phase.   

This feature provides an automated "safety stop", which prevents inadvertent movement of the Power Levers below flight idle when in flight.  This is
separate from the Power Lever Latch. 
 

As a part of this new feature we have redesigned how you use the Power Lever Latches.  You now have two options:

    1. Use the Power Lever Latches exactly the way they are used in the real world Saab.
    2. Have the Power Lever Latches "automated" in sync with the above described new Flight Idle Stop feature.

If you choose to NOT use the Auto-Latch then you will need to manually engage the latches on the Power Levers in order to move them below the Flight Idle position. You will only be able to do this when the Flight Idle Stop is Open

If you choose to use the Automated-Latch then you will not need to use the latches at all, they will be automated in sync with the Flight Idle Stop.  Just remember, this does not eliminate the Flight Idle Gate, you will still need to wait for the Flight Idle Stop to open in order to move your levers below the Flight Idle position.

You can choose which option you want to use in the User Preferences Window. When you load v1.6.4 the option should be set to "unchecked", which
means you want to use the latches as they work in the real world Saab. If you want this to be automated you will need to check the option for "Use PL Auto Latch".

In addition, all other preferences will be reset when you install v1.6.4 and you will need to set them accordingly.

The red line for the Power Levers, visible in the TQ viewer, now indicates the status of the Flight Idle Stop.  In v2.0 you will be able to see the status of the Flight Idle Stop as an annunciator on the FSP.

You will still need to keep your hardware in sync with the cockpit manipulators.

 

[Carsten74]

Thanks for the explenation.

My problem is no matter what i do, i can´t put the power lever ON GROUND  in ground - idle and i have no possibility to activate the reverser so after

landing it is difficult to stop the plane. I know of course, that during the flight the PL does not has to be below Flight-Idle.

 

Edited April 7, 2021 by Carsten74

[Robster]

What is the name of the command in xplane  please

[Cameron]

13 minutes ago, Carsten74 said:

My problem is no matter what i do, i can´t put the power lever ON GROUND  in ground - idle and i have no possibility to activate the reverser so after

You still have to move the latch to get to that phase on ground! It sounds like the stop is preventing you because you are not lifting the gate.

1 minute ago, Robster said:

What is the name of the command in xplane  please

les / sf34a / acft / engn / mnp / Right & Left Power Lever Flight Idle Latch

[JGregory]

18 minutes ago, Carsten74 said:

Thanks for the explenation.

My problem is no matter what i do, i can´t put the power lever ON GROUND  in ground - idle and i have no possibility to activate the reverser so after

landing it is difficult to stop the plane. I know of course, that during the flight the PL does not has to be below Flight-Idle.

Do you have "Use Auto Latch" checked or unchecked in the User Preferences ?

[Carsten74]

actually it is not activated

[Cameron]

Just now, Carsten74 said:

actually it is not activated

Which comes back to my point earlier, and what was outlined in linked posts to you prior with that explanation.

We're happy to help, but please do read what is presented to you.

Let us know if you continue to have issues after the fact.

[JGregory]

Just now, Carsten74 said:

actually it is not activated

Did you read the description/instructions I posted above ???    Please follow those instructions and then report back here.

If you still have a problem post a screenshot of your User Preferences Window and the TQ Viewer Window (open at the same time).

[Carsten74]

OK, it seems everything is all right  now. So i say thank you for the friendly support, i try a short flight now.

Sorry, that i first thought, i was a bug, my mistake.

[Robster]

Great Cameron,
You're great. Thanks for your great responsiveness.
Keep up the good work and congratulations again for the great job you are doing on this wonderful aircraft.
Yessssssssssssssssssss

[Carsten74]

the only thing is, i must find a way to put the beta / reverser on my Thrustmaster.

Actually for the other planes, i have it on a knop, but that does not work here....

Only if i take the mouse to remove the PL to revers...

[Cameron]

4 minutes ago, Carsten74 said:

the only thing is, i must find a way to put the beta / reverser on my Thrustmaster.

That was already explained to @Robster here: 

 

[mz0824]

I read all messages above but still not able to move the PL below flight idle detent ON THE GROUND after loading the plane.  The throttle of the joystick (X52Pro) in full back position, pop-up TQ window shows that the throttle is in full reverse position (green rectangles, picture 1) but actually the throttle are still in the idle flight detent (picture 2).

The User Preference window (picture 3) is attached as well.

Any comments and suggestions are very appreciated.

PS. XP 11.52 (Vulcan) + SAAB 340A 1.6.5 hot fix.

Edited April 8, 2021 by mz0824

[JGregory]

1 hour ago, mz0824 said:

I read all messages above but still not able to move the PL below flight idle detent ON THE GROUND after loading the plane.  The throttle of the joystick (X52Pro) in full back position, pop-up TQ window shows that the throttle is in full reverse position (green rectangles, picture 1) but actually the throttle are still in the idle flight detent (picture 2).

The User Preference window (picture 3) is attached as well.

Any comments and suggestions are very appreciated.

PS. XP 11.52 (Vulcan) + SAAB 340A 1.6.5 hot fix

 

 

Did you have power to the aircraft?  The Flight Idle Stop will default to the "CLOSED" position without power.  The Right Battery Bus must be powered for the Flight Idle Stop to operate.

[mz0824]

3 hours ago, JGregory said:

Did you have power to the aircraft?  The Flight Idle Stop will default to the "CLOSED" position without power.  The Right Battery Bus must be powered for the Flight Idle Stop to operate.

Many thanks for prompt reply and comment ! No, the plane was not powered,only loaded. Will check and hope on problem solving.

ADDED

Thanks, it works as advised by you. Indeed, the plane is to be powered what enables to move the PL below Flight Idle detent on the ground.

Edited April 8, 2021 by mz0824
Additinal info

[B-7]

That's where the gust lock comes in handy btw, it prevents you to setting the throttles beyond the gate.