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Ping. Here are the forgotten log files. user.cfg Log.txt CL650_Log.txt

Ice doesn't melt instantly. Try using the de-ice truck instead.

Correct. Weird, I was pretty sure US layouts also had the G key for @, I guess I was indeed mistaken

At this point it's probably turned to ice, walking too close to it may cause it to shatter

Apple keyboard has @ on the G key, you use option + G to get @ I'm also curious which non-Apple keyboard you have that has an Option key or which Apple keyboard you have that doesn't have @ on the G key

The Boarding Lights manipulator is click and drag but uses a "button" cursor (as used for toggles by the Challenger) instead of a "hand". AFAICT the manipulator is consistent with the simulated switch (3-position switch that automatically re-centers) but the cursor is not Regards, Tim

v1.3r1 Cannot enter the @ in the username field using option + G; using the Paste button works before I try to use option + G to manually enter the character, after that, the Paste button appears to do nothing regardless of the clipboard's contents. Regards, Tim

v1.3r1, macOS user.cfg with: chk_data_base_dates_uses_rtc = true Load the CL650 (non persistent-mode, not sure it matters) and bring up users settings: the corresponding checkbox in unchecked. Check the box, no change in user.cfg -- uncheck it, and you get: chk_data_base_dates_uses_rtc = false If I quit X-Plane, relaunch and re-open the aircraft (non-persistent mode, new user.cfg as above), the checkbox is unchecked, so it's not a simple inversion. Regards, Tim

Depends on the weight, it's .77 at MTOW IIRC (there's a table floating around elsewhere), and ends up at .72 as you get lighter.

Thanks! Regards, Tim

For example, loading the CL650 in non-persistent mode and looking at sim/flightmodel/weight/m_fuel_total First, the dataref's value is constant, no changes whatsoever. I request an AC GPU via the menu, start the battery, enable the GPU, enable hydraulic 3A pump. Dataref stays still. Then I bring up the non-persistent mode's "fuel truck" via the menu, and the internal refueling panel. No change to the dataref either. Then I turn the refuel panel on, open the main tank valves, and click start on the fuel truck panel to start pumping -- obviously, at that point, the dataref goes up, as would be expected. I wait a while, eventually click Finish to stop pumping, close the main tank valves, turn off the refueling panel. The dataref stops going up, but keeps changing by microscopic amounts every few seconds or so. Keeping in mind the APU is not running, and as far as I know all fuel tank door/caps/whatever are closed, there are no leaks triggered (also, the fuel amount if not going down per se, it's going down, then up, then down and so on). I don't quite understand what's happening here? Fuel sensor imprecision should not affect this dataref (which represents the actual quantity, not the sensed quantity), and while fuel volume is affected by density which is affected by the atmosphere, shouldn't the fuel mass stay constant? Am I incorrect about the latter, or is the mass constant but the weight varies due to small changes in Earth's gravity? Or is there another effect affecting the fuel mass that I don't know about? Regards, Tim

As per the developer on Twitch, the issue is known and will be addressed eventually.

I usually map the CDU popup toggles in all my aircraft to a keyboard key, so I bring them up and toggle them back off using the same key. Most addons will not enable keyboard capture unless either the mouse cursor is over the popup windows (ToLiSS, maybe SSG?) or you enable it by clicking somewhere rather specific (default FMS: scratchpad; X-crafts has specific click spot and an assignable key to toggle it on/off, FlightFactor and Aerobask have a specific clickspot to toggle it on/off as well, IIRC). Hot Start's keyboard capture is slightly more intrusive, because clicking on any CDU button on the popup enables capture, and in order to disable it you have to specifically click outside of the popup windows. While not a huge deal, it could be improved a bit. Here are a few ideas you can use as inspiration: hacky but perhaps quick to implement: pass through any keys that aren't used by the CDU keyboard capture so that the sim and other keyboard handlers can process them (for example: F-keys, Escape, Return, Enter, Tab, as well as possibly some of PgUp, PgDn, Home, End and non-ASCII characters are probably not relevant/useful to the CDU) provide alternative methods to trigger keyboard capture, such as clicking on the display itself (rather than any button) or even the scratchpad area like Laminar's default FMS provide an option to limit and/or disable keyboard capture altogether in User Settings (possibly combined with the above) Regards, Tim

As requested by @Pils on Twitch. toto confirmed there are commands for all switches in the aircraft, but I was asking about a command to toggle the popup windows, and while I found most, I cannot find any for the following two: Challenger 650 > Ground Services > Refuel > Interior Refuel/Defuel Panel… Challenger 650 > Ground Services > Refuel > Exterior Refuel/Defuel Panel… Checking using the X-Plane settings menu, since (once the aircraft is loaded) it will show all XPLMCommands created by the aircraft plugins. No other popup commands are missing (that I can find), but it also seems the seat commands: Challenger 650 > Seats > Sit in Sofa 1 seat and anything below it do nothing (the last working command being the "sit in toilet seat" one from that same menu). Regards, Tim

I mean, it's not straightforward and requires running code in a flight loop callback (i.e. you can't switch to a specific livery in one go), but you can use: XPLMCommand: sim/operation/prev_livery XPLMCommand: sim/operation/next_livery Check the loaded livery and/or index via: XPLMDataRef: sim/aircraft/view/acf_livery_index XPLMDataRef: sim/aircraft/view/acf_livery_path And be notified of any livery change via XPluginReceiveMessage (XPLM_MSG_LIVERY_LOADED for XPLM_USER_AIRCRAFT). What I don't understand is why you have a livery selector in the airframe manager if you need to select the livery via X-Plane as well, that's very counter-intuitive Regards, Tim

Hmm, couldn't changing it in the airframe manager programmatically change it in the sim too? Why the limitation? Regards, Tim

That.

X-RAAS will eventually get updated to support the Challenger; until then it's not compatible.

Out of curiosity, was he fired?

Roger, thanks

Still happening in v1.2r3 -- it's not a huge deal as it can be worked around by creating a new airframe, switching to that and back to the original airframe, or even quitting and relaunching X-Plane -- but still… Regards, Tim

Working for me here. At what point are you checking? The payload weight increases progressively as passengers start boarding (a few seconds after the van arrives, provided the main door is open) and is fully updated only by the time the flight attendant/van driver says they're all ready to go -- maybe you're checking too soon? Also, make sure your door is open when the passenger van arrives? If you still have an issue, an screenshot with the Challenger 650 > Ground Services > Show Service Status overlay enabled and, if you have DataRefTool enabled, the value of the sim/flightmodel/weight/m_fixed would help too. Regards, Tim

Ping! Just making sure this won't get overlooked since none of the staff has acknowledged this topic yet

Well, I just tried and got no errors whatsoever. Obviously you have to replace all files with a cycle ID in their header so they match, you can't just pick and choose, but Navigraph does provide all of those in their data. Lack of support from official HS/X-Aviation staff makes perfect sense though, I'm just pointing out it is quite feasible, provided you know what you're doing

Oh that's new. I did stop updating my default database manually a while ago, I guess I'll have to try again and see what happens.