skipper63 Posted November 27, 2012 Report Posted November 27, 2012 Hi,I just got a mail from X-Aviation that 1.5.3 with 64 Bit support is still in the makings and that there probably will be no 10.6.8 support. At the org, they already seem to be distributing that verion. Philip was looking fot testers for 10.7 and 10.8 only.Could you guys please calrify what the deal is with OSX support in 64 bit? I am, like a few others, still on 10.6.8, since I need power pc support for two programs, that I need for work. If 10.6 will not be supported, then I need to explore some solutions to run X-Plane on 10.8 via an external hard drive, which of course would not be my favored solution, having to reboot every time I want to fly the CRJ.ThanxPeter Quote
Ben Russell Posted November 27, 2012 Report Posted November 27, 2012 Philip chose to use an exotic flavour of C/C++ for reasons known best to him.(Gizmo remains 10.6 compatible as I am still using 10.6.8) Quote
Cameron Posted November 27, 2012 Report Posted November 27, 2012 Hi, Peter,As the e-mail indicated, that is correct and is currently the case. How this will play out down the road I am not entirely sure, but a definitive answer will be soon if not already depending on how forward goings progress. I wish I could be more concrete at the moment, and I do apologize for that.In short, the CRJ has moved to the clang compiler for 64-bit. While 10.6.x is 64-bit compatible as an operating system, it does not have the runtime for the clang compiler, and thus the CRJ as it stands right now will not run on this setup in 64-bit X-Plane. Quote
woweezowee Posted November 27, 2012 Report Posted November 27, 2012 Count me in for 10.6.8 for the same reasons my neighbor stated in the opening post. Quote
skipper63 Posted November 27, 2012 Author Report Posted November 27, 2012 Hi Cameron and Ben,ok, thanks for the info. At least I do understand now, why it is like that;-)Well, I guess it is cheaper buying another external hard drive, then buying up to date versions of Filemaker and Adobe Illustrator. I hope that will not slow down the sim, when using firewire 800? Anybody have experience on a set up like that running x-plane 10?CheersPeter Quote
scubajuan_new Posted November 28, 2012 Report Posted November 28, 2012 Another solution for those who still need and use PPC apps is bootcamp partition to run 10.6.8 an those apps. Just a thought Quote
skipper63 Posted November 28, 2012 Author Report Posted November 28, 2012 Another solution for those who still need and use PPC apps is bootcamp partition to run 10.6.8 an those apps. Just a thoughtYeah, that would certainly be the most elegant way to work around the problem. Quote
woweezowee Posted November 28, 2012 Report Posted November 28, 2012 dual boot in a working environment that has to be efficient is not really very elegant Quote
philipp Posted November 28, 2012 Report Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) Could you guys please calrify what the deal is with OSX support in 64 bit?The 64bit switch is an excellent opportunity to get rid of old technologies not longer supported by Apple themselves. The compiler Apple uses for targetting 106 and earlier is a joke. It's like 5 versions behind it's Linux counterpart now. Instead, starting with 10.7, Apple ships a new toolchain which is better in standards compliance and faster. Apple traditionally supports targetting the latest and the second-latest OS with their latest SDKs. Which at this time means 10.8 being the latest and 10.7 being the second-latest supported version.The deal with OSX support in 64bit CRJ is clear: 10.7+.There is no way back to using the rusty old gcc compiler and targetting 10.6.I am, like a few others, still on 10.6.8 According to X-Plane's statistics, 10.6 makes up less than 4% of X-Plane's total user base. That is actually less than there are Linux users.Philip chose to use an exotic flavour of C/C++ for reasons known best to him.Well, try using std::async or lambda functions with gcc 4.2 and report your results Edited November 28, 2012 by philipp Quote
chris k Posted November 28, 2012 Report Posted November 28, 2012 VMWare Fusion allows for OSX loads now natively. Might want to do what the rest of us do to keep using 1 or 2 apps which are OS-specific - VMWare 'em. =)- CK.P.S. the *only* reason I now have a WinXP install in VMWare is for Visio - the last "must have app" I need inthe Netwokring business (and no, OmniGraffle just AIN'T Visio) =) Quote
scubajuan_new Posted November 29, 2012 Report Posted November 29, 2012 dual boot in a working environment that has to be efficient is not really very elegant And then run the partition on VMware Fusion or Parallels Desktops so you don't have to reboot. 1 Quote
woweezowee Posted November 29, 2012 Report Posted November 29, 2012 The CRJ is nice, but not worth changing my working environment, sorry. No 64bit on 10.6., no CRJ for me anymore. I'll just accept it. Philipp has to make cuts that make sense to him, that's ok. But sad. Quote
philipp Posted December 1, 2012 Report Posted December 1, 2012 (edited) Hi, I have an update on this. Today I had the chance to get my hands on a 2009 MacBook Pro of a friend that still runs 10.6.8.And guess what: The CRJ 64bit worked. Let me put this straight: Apple very clearly says that what I'm doing is NOT compatible with OSX 10.6. Nevertheless, it appears to work.But: As this is strictly not supported by Apple, it may break any time in the future. That is it might break any time X-Plane is updated, the CRJ is updated or my XCode is updated and thus the next CRJ update depends on a newer XCode. As of now, CRJ 1.5.3/64bit works on 10.6.8, but I don't guarantee any support in the future for this configuration. If it works for you, fine. If it doesn't, you were warned. Philipp Edited December 1, 2012 by philipp 1 Quote
flightime56 Posted December 5, 2012 Report Posted December 5, 2012 I have downloaded and used the CRJ 1.5.3 version in 64Bit and it works fine except for the thrust reversers, I have an external button on my Thrustmaster (joystick) that I press to activate the reversers, sometimes it works and other times it doesn't, hitting the button a few times may get an activation, but consistent it is not. Mac 10.8.2 - XP 10.20b5. Quote
Cameron Posted December 5, 2012 Report Posted December 5, 2012 I have downloaded and used the CRJ 1.5.3 version in 64Bit and it works fine except for the thrust reversers, I have an external button on my Thrustmaster (joystick) that I press to activate the reversers, sometimes it works and other times it doesn't, hitting the button a few times may get an activation, but consistent it is not. Mac 10.8.2 - XP 10.20b5. Support from this should be sought from your original purchase point. This section is for X-Aviation customers only. Quote
flightime56 Posted December 8, 2012 Report Posted December 8, 2012 I thought this was the official support thread for Javiers work?... Sorry. Quote
docromano Posted December 9, 2012 Report Posted December 9, 2012 I thought this was the official support thread for Javiers work?... Sorry. Hi flighttime, http://forums.x-pilot.com/index.php/topic/2369-x-aviation-buyers-to-x-aviation-and-org-to-org/ The 64bit CRJ was released from the org but not here because of http://developer.x-plane.com/2012/11/please-do-not-release-64-bit-add-ons/ Quote
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