JGregory Posted August 24, 2011 Report Posted August 24, 2011 http://www.macrumors.com/2011/08/23/united-airlines-deploying-11000-ipads-to-pilots-as-electronic-flight-bags/ Quote
UH-60 Blackhawk Posted August 24, 2011 Report Posted August 24, 2011 Wouldn't be surprised if more airlines follow suit soon, it's a great move. Quote
namaui Posted August 24, 2011 Report Posted August 24, 2011 Not only will this save money and countless backs, I have to imagine being able to search a specific term may even reduce the time needed to bring up specific sections of a manual or procedure checklists. Couple in it's own light source, and having an iPad in place of paper could potentially save lives in an emergency. Quote
UltimateFlier Posted September 9, 2011 Report Posted September 9, 2011 Consider this: Both Pilot and Co-Pilot forget to charge their iPads the day before flight. Later in flight, the engine #1 and 3 shut off unexpectedly and the radio fails. They did not memorize the checklist for multiple engine failures and restarts and thus, since they did not bring "38 pounds of paper" with them they cannot restart the engines.Paper does not require batteries or charging cables to operate... Paper is safer but iPads are cheaper long-term.... Quote
JGregory Posted September 9, 2011 Author Report Posted September 9, 2011 Consider this: Both Pilot and Co-Pilot forget to charge their iPads the day before flight. Later in flight, the engine #1 and 3 shut off unexpectedly and the radio fails. They did not memorize the checklist for multiple engine failures and restarts and thus, since they did not bring "38 pounds of paper" with them they cannot restart the engines. Paper does not require batteries or charging cables to operate... Paper is safer but iPads are cheaper long-term....If you had looked into this more deeply you would have found that the airlines are providing a set of all documents in paper form per aircraft. This way the pilots no longer have to carry their own set of paper documents. So the pilots have a lighter load, the aircraft has a light load, but there is paper backup if necessary. Besides, your scenario is highly unlikely Quote
Oliver Posted September 9, 2011 Report Posted September 9, 2011 I was discussing the subject with my ground school instructor. We were both discussing how we each used our iPads during flights, and I asked him what he would do if his iPad stopped functioning. He promptly pulled out his iPhone and told me he had all his aeronautical app subscriptions on his iPhone as well Quote
UltimateFlier Posted September 10, 2011 Report Posted September 10, 2011 ok, ok maybe they should mount USB slots in the cockpit so they can charge their ipads.... maybe mounted to the side of the throttle quadrant...and how would it be lighter if they had all of that paper anyways?? it would just be an additional 1.33 lbs... Quote
Cameron Posted September 10, 2011 Report Posted September 10, 2011 and how would it be lighter if they had all of that paper anyways?? it would just be an additional 1.33 lbs...Because the paper is not going to be carried by the pilot. The paper manuals will now exist IN the aircraft, while the pilot will carry the iPad instead. It's significantly lighter. Quote
UltimateFlier Posted September 10, 2011 Report Posted September 10, 2011 ok, so the aircraft manuals will be on the iPad and Inside the aircraft for redundancy... but the flight plans and other stuff will just be on the ipad but not on the acft or carried on by the pilot? Quote
Cameron Posted September 10, 2011 Report Posted September 10, 2011 ok, so the aircraft manuals will be on the iPad and Inside the aircraft for redundancy... but the flight plans and other stuff will just be on the ipad but not on the acft or carried on by the pilot?Flight plans have nothing to do with manuals.Flight plans are carried out by airline dispatch. Pilots will still need to print out a flight release at the gate (small document prior to each flight, unique to each flight) prior to a flight. Flight plans are still entered into an FMC as normal. The only thing the iPad has to do with is eliminating the need to provide each pilot with 50lbs of paper to lug around every day. Quote
philipwyatt Posted September 11, 2011 Report Posted September 11, 2011 and if i am not massively mis advised this is a development we have all seen coming for a while now....I have software on my ipad and iphone 4 which has plug ins for x-plane but was designed to be used with real world navigation anyway even though we are not allowed to say so SkyCharts for example is a perfect way to trace your ifr vfr sfvr etc through the skies through x-plane and real world navigation alike and trust me I have tried both in the same exact aircraft RW andXPThis is the future paper go bye bye believe me! Quote
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