RobW05 Posted January 22, 2019 Report Posted January 22, 2019 Renaming them won't change anything imho. Removal is the best choice. Another method would be to disable them via the plugin manager in xplane, but that seems not to prevent them from loading partially sometimes. Quote
BillM Posted January 22, 2019 Author Report Posted January 22, 2019 Hi All, I completely removed all my plugins. Didn't touch the state folder - started Xplane, loaded TBM900, got prompt 'do I wish to continue with flight' - said yes. Aircraft loaded and I had unuseable FPS - see Photo1. Remained in Xplane and loaded Cessna 172 to check - all okay, good(ish) FPS - see Photo 2 Exit Xplane - removed state folder contents, re-started Xplane, loaded TBM900 and unlike all other occasions, still had unuseable FPS - see Photo 3 RAM and CPU usage appeared to be okay but when I opened Task Manager, GPU was at 100% with TBM - see Photo 4 Loaded up Diamond DA62, FPS okay, RAM, CPU and GPU okay - see Photo 5 It would appear that by removing all plugins, I was unable to recover the FPS for the TBM900. I didn't get the chance to fly it so I cannot comment on stability. With your assistance, I do hope to get the TBM flying again - I will be upgrading my GPU very soon but whilst I do concede that this could be part of the issue, I don't think it is the main problem as I did have the aircraft flying well with pretty good FPS. As always, your assistance and advice are welcomed. Kind Regards, Bill. Quote
fireone Posted January 22, 2019 Report Posted January 22, 2019 A common suggestion at this point is to cut the prefences folder from the XP installation , paste it , say, to your desktop . Fire up XP a new preferences folder will be generated , but your keyboard , joystick ,etc settings will be default, Laminar settings . If your FPS climbs to acceptable levels , you can reintroduce the subfolders of the cut and pasted , now on the desktop , preferences folder one by one , see which one is acting as the brake. Could you try putting all your graphics sliders all the way to the left , then one by one , bump them up a notch ? Quote
BillM Posted January 22, 2019 Author Report Posted January 22, 2019 Hi, Thanks for the suggestions. I have tried modifying the graphics sliders - on minimum the FPS improves to 60 FPS but with unacceptable graphics, with TBM the FPS is around 20. I reset preferences and shaders when I upgraded to version .30 but will consider trying again. Again, thanks for your suggestions. Bill. Quote
RobW05 Posted January 22, 2019 Report Posted January 22, 2019 I would try it with a fresh copy of xplane, just to rule out possible conflicts with your current xplane install. Just add the TBM and leave everything else at default. It's worth the try and if it fails you can always go back to your current install. Quote
Goran_M Posted January 22, 2019 Report Posted January 22, 2019 If you’re getting 20 FPS With the TBM, with all graphics sliders set to minimum, there is something seriously wrong happening on your end. Toto runs a worse computer than yours, and even he has FPS that are more than acceptable. What FPS do you get with the DA62? Quote
wim1976 Posted January 22, 2019 Report Posted January 22, 2019 The GPU load is 100% while CPU load is about 20%. This is a very strange combination in X-plane. Could you check where your monitor cable is plugged in. The cable must plugged in the dedicated GPU card and not in the GPU slot of the motherboard. Quote
Cameron Posted January 22, 2019 Report Posted January 22, 2019 2 hours ago, BillM said: I will be upgrading my GPU very soon but whilst I do concede that this could be part of the issue, I don't think it is the main problem as I did have the aircraft flying well with pretty good FPS. Your screenshots are further showing my theory of the 970s being stretched too far. Yet again, comparing to other aircraft does you no good here. There's nothing applicable from one creation to the next when it comes to what's ultimately drawn on the GPU. Thinking further on this, you said "I did have" the aircraft having FPS that were stable. This makes me also suspect that with the recent changes in 11.3 and the introduction of the particle engine, things are just getting pushed too far. It's possible your better, stable FPS days were in a previous version of X-Plane. Quote
BillM Posted January 22, 2019 Author Report Posted January 22, 2019 Hi All, Thanks for your suggestions. With DA62, I get very good FPS 30-40, depending on weather. Good FPS with all other aircraft other than TBM. Excessive GPU loading is predominantly with TBM but also quite high with some other aircraft - I think this is down to quite an old video card, 2 x GTX670. All connections checked to / from GPUs, all secure. i will consider fresh Xplane installation at weekend - wary of fixing one thing and then creating other issues. i will keep trying as I do want to get this very fine model flying again. Regards, Bill. Quote
BillM Posted January 22, 2019 Author Report Posted January 22, 2019 Cameron, Yes, I had very good FPS prior to version 30. The only way I can currently compare performance in 30 is against previous experience and current aircraft. I accept that the TBM is a sophisticated aircraft and will place greater demands on my PC in comparison to other aircraft I have, but I used to decrease some settings to ensure good FPS (I.e. no live weather, decreased graphical settings, etc.) - I can’t achieve that now unless I delete the state folder (up initial today when that also didn’t work when I removed all plugins). i will continue to try different permutations in the hope of FPS nirvana until I get my new video card. Regards, Bill Quote
wim1976 Posted January 22, 2019 Report Posted January 22, 2019 The log states a 970 card. But with a 670 you are probably running out of GPU memory. This brings the fps to a sort of slideshowVerzonden vanaf mijn iPhone met Tapatalk Quote
BillM Posted January 22, 2019 Author Report Posted January 22, 2019 Sorry, my mistake, 2 x GTX 970! Bill. Quote
fireone Posted January 24, 2019 Report Posted January 24, 2019 Only one thing left from me : at the XP splash screen remove AI aircraft Quote
BillM Posted January 24, 2019 Author Report Posted January 24, 2019 Hi All, Followed advice of another poster, loaded stock 172 and then TBM, steady 30FPS! Will now get started and see if I can get a flight without issues. I wonder what is going on? However, I do remember the need to load stock FSX aircraft before complex ones such as PMDG. Kind Regards, Bill. Quote
BillM Posted January 24, 2019 Author Report Posted January 24, 2019 Hi All, Further to my last, good flight, no issues. See attached graphic. Kind Regards, Bill Quote
RobW05 Posted January 24, 2019 Report Posted January 24, 2019 I remember I had to do this on every startup in order to get a payware Twin Otter loaded correctly. On the forums I read that it had something to do with SASL. But that was back in good old xplane 10 days. 24 minutes ago, BillM said: Followed advice of another poster, loaded stock 172 and then TBM, steady 30FPS! Quote
julian1992 Posted February 1, 2019 Report Posted February 1, 2019 i have the same issue with the installer i get error when aim trying to install the plane witch folders i need to delete manually ? Quote
Goran_M Posted February 1, 2019 Report Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, julian1992 said: i have the same issue with the installer i get error when aim trying to install the plane witch folders i need to delete manually ? Delete the TBM folder in Aircraft/X-Aviation Quote
julian1992 Posted February 1, 2019 Report Posted February 1, 2019 i have deleted the folder and i get still get the same message Quote
Goran_M Posted February 1, 2019 Report Posted February 1, 2019 Can you post the exact error message (screenshot would be perfect) and can you confirm you're pointing the installer to the ROOT X-Plane 11 folder Quote
julian1992 Posted February 1, 2019 Report Posted February 1, 2019 yes aim pointing installer to main xplane folder indeed Quote
Goran_M Posted February 1, 2019 Report Posted February 1, 2019 Are you using the correct installer? What's the filename of the installer? Quote
julian1992 Posted February 1, 2019 Report Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) file name TBM900-windows-installer and the folder name tbm 900 v1.1.4b Edited February 1, 2019 by julian1992 Quote
Goran_M Posted February 1, 2019 Report Posted February 1, 2019 Do you have antivirus or some kind of firewall blocking your connection to the XA servers? Quote
julian1992 Posted February 1, 2019 Report Posted February 1, 2019 no i dont have any antivirus and windows defender i have shutdown Quote
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