gazzy360 Posted February 23, 2017 Report Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) Hi All, I know this has probably been discussed a million times but my search brought nothing back. Tonight I was flying and was told to proceed direct to a certain leg - normally when i click this my sim drops to less than 1FPS until I hit Execute. Tonight though, when I did this DIR TO i also got an altitude error. Something I could not correct in flight. Basically I was stuck in this 1FPS stutter because I could not Execute the change. I had to close the sim and wasting a lot of time. VERY frustrating as I am sure you can imagine. I would have thought this would have been ironed out a long long time ago? Anyway are we going to see this fixed in the future because I am having to go back to flying with other aircraft until this is sorted. Thanks and sorry if its a repeated subject. Edited February 28, 2017 by Morten Quote
Tom Stian Posted February 23, 2017 Report Posted February 23, 2017 23 minutes ago, gazzy360 said: Tonight I was flying and was told to proceed direct to a certain leg - normally when i click this my sim drops to less than 1FPS until I hit Execute. Tonight though, when I did this DIR TO i also got an altitude error. Something I could not correct in flight. Basically I was stuck in this 1FPS stutter because I could not Execute the change. I had to close the sim and wasting a lot of time. Quote
Litjan Posted February 24, 2017 Report Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) 16 hours ago, gazzy360 said: Hi All, I know this has probably been discussed a million times but my search brought nothing back. Tonight I was flying and was told to proceed direct to a certain leg - normally when i click this my sim drops to less than 1FPS until I hit Execute. Tonight though, when I did this DIR TO i also got an altitude error. Something I could not correct in flight. Basically I was stuck in this 1FPS stutter because I could not Execute the change. I had to close the sim and wasting a lot of time. VERY frustrating as I am sure you can imagine. I would have thought this would have been ironed out a long long time ago? Anyway are we going to see this fixed in the future because I am having to go back to flying with other aircraft until this is sorted. Thanks and sorry if its a repeated subject. I agree that this thread is hard to find (it is only the second pinned topic in the "bug report" forum, with the cryptic title "Solution to freeze and stutter when modifiying the route in the FMC" - but I will give you a hand and find it for you - heck, even copy and paste a link for you! Ping me if you need any further help with that! Edit: Sorry for being sarcastic, and that you are having a problem with our plane. But we can´t really make the solution to the problem you encounter more obvious and prominent, I think. I don´t know what kind of "altitude error" you had, but with the solution mentioned in the thread you should be able to retain control and at least fix that problem... Cheers, Jan Edited February 24, 2017 by Litjan Quote
gazzy360 Posted February 24, 2017 Author Report Posted February 24, 2017 I honestly didn't see it, but thanks for that. As for the altitude error. I was flying a short route of 250nm or so, and was heading up for FL350. When ATC instructed me to head direct to a certain point, it obviously cut out a chunk of my flight plan and my FMC decided that I could not make that altitude I guess? So instead I got an 'Unable CRZ ALT' or something along those lines. So when I made the DIR To change, it made the crz alt error appear and I could not Execute the change or change the crz altitude mid flight. I do remember getting one of those text boxes pop up as they often do - so perhaps it was the Exec button on the FMC that was actually unresponsive instead? Hard to know really. Quote
Litjan Posted February 24, 2017 Report Posted February 24, 2017 Hi, yes, that is likely the cause of the "UNABLE CRZ ALT" - another message you may see is the "CHECK ALT TARGET". UNABLE CRZ means just what you said - the route is deemed to short to make the cruise altitude. You may either change the CRZ alt, or you can simply clear the message and continue regardless. The CHECK ALT TARGET means that your MCP ALT setting is in disagreement (direction) with your set cruise altitude. For example you are flying at 10.000 feet, your MCP ALT is set to 5000 but your CRZ ALT is set to 35.000 - if you try to engage VNAV it will throw that error... Hope this helps, Jan Quote
gazzy360 Posted February 25, 2017 Author Report Posted February 25, 2017 Thanks for the reply. I guess it was the Exec button becoming unresponsive and I thought the error was with the crz alt. Ahh well! Quote
marpilot Posted February 26, 2017 Report Posted February 26, 2017 Well, I must continue this topic as I also encounter freezing FMC although I have made this antivirus exclude a/c folder. Many times LNAV got lost after DIRECT to and recently flying online froze 1 minute and I had to disconnect (I was angry because it was anniversary flying on IVAO and the controler only asked me "I guess it is X-plane?"). B733 is my first choice like FF b767 and I must say your FMC is not reliable, I'm sorry I fly mainly online and it is very frustrating to freeze then.... I really hope you will fix FMC in 1.1 update. And please don't say "so many pilots and no problems so far" Maybe they don't have Flight Factor planes? This features are more important to me than Vnav- I don't need this - but RELIABILITY FIRST PLEASE. Good night Marcin Quote
mmerelles Posted February 26, 2017 Report Posted February 26, 2017 1 hour ago, marpilot said: Well, I must continue this topic as I also encounter freezing FMC although I have made this antivirus exclude a/c folder. Many times LNAV got lost after DIRECT to and recently flying online froze 1 minute and I had to disconnect (I was angry because it was anniversary flying on IVAO and the controler only asked me "I guess it is X-plane?"). B733 is my first choice like FF b767 and I must say your FMC is not reliable, I'm sorry I fly mainly online and it is very frustrating to freeze then.... I really hope you will fix FMC in 1.1 update. And please don't say "so many pilots and no problems so far" Maybe they don't have Flight Factor planes? This features are more important to me than Vnav- I don't need this - but RELIABILITY FIRST PLEASE. Good night Marcin It is not the a/c (aircraft?) folder you need to exclude. It is the entire /xplane 10/ folder you must exclude. Most importan to exclude it on windows DEFENDER Quote
marpilot Posted February 27, 2017 Report Posted February 27, 2017 I have done it. Now i am reinstalling IXEG b737 on xp10 NON STEAM - I suspect, maybe my STEAM version was cousing this problem. Or a plugin - but anyway, other payware aircrafts never had such freezing. Or dealing with antivirus.... Quote
marpilot Posted February 27, 2017 Report Posted February 27, 2017 NO IMPROVEMENT here : IXEG 733 on XP10.51 without any sceneries and plugins will freeze for 2-3 seconds everytime I make DIR TO in FMC. I am very dissappointed. I was struggling with this from very begining when I bought it some 3 months ago. I don't know what to think now...... Quote
marpilot Posted February 27, 2017 Report Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) Today when departing LEBL to EPWA rw 25R SID DALI2P when made a shortcut to SOSUR it took over 40sec to execute!!!!! And the screen went black for two times! Desperately need a solution. Marpilot Edited February 27, 2017 by marpilot Quote
marpilot Posted February 27, 2017 Report Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) Windows Defender is turned OFF by G-DATA antivirus Edited February 27, 2017 by marpilot Quote
gazzy360 Posted February 27, 2017 Author Report Posted February 27, 2017 Just to update on my side. I excluded XP10, XP11 and the X-Aviation file in windows defender - i can now edit my route without stutter I suppose the issue I was having was with the EXEC button becoming unusable so I could not fix anything! Quote
marpilot Posted February 27, 2017 Report Posted February 27, 2017 Lucky you... But X-Aviation folder is inside X-plane folder, and I have it excluded so, what's the point to exclude it once again? BTW folder or file "x-aviation"? Quote
marpilot Posted February 27, 2017 Report Posted February 27, 2017 I spent half day and NO PROGRESS HERE - freezing and black when DIR TO I need help !!! It is like antivirus exlusion doesn't work anymore - G-Data or Win Defender. In december this helped me but the problem again appeared.... Quote
gazzy360 Posted February 27, 2017 Author Report Posted February 27, 2017 I just wanted to be double sure so I excluded both. Mine never went black so perhaps your issue is also down to something else? Just a guess. Quote
Litjan Posted February 27, 2017 Report Posted February 27, 2017 Czien dobre, marpilot, Are you running X-Plane on an external disk like a USB stick, a memory card or a mobile harddisk connected with a USB cable? Are you sure you have excluded the whole X-Plane folder for ALL antivirus programs you may have running? Many users have installed some programs "by accident" that they don´t even know about like avast antivirus etc. I am positive that it is a problem specific to your computer, and not a problem with the plane, as thousands of other users are running it just fine. We will try to help you, but ultimately you have to find out what is slowing down access to the navigational database that is residing in the X-Plane resources folder. Jan Quote
marpilot Posted February 27, 2017 Report Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) Hello Jan, I have one PC dedicated to X-plane only and don't have any idea whats wrong now - tried excluding by Defender or G-data all my XP folders (STEAM,XP10,XP11) and in every case your b733 freezes when DIR TO....I am unhappy to stop flying online with this bird until 1.1 comes. Cheers Edited February 27, 2017 by marpilot Quote
poodster Posted February 27, 2017 Report Posted February 27, 2017 12 minutes ago, marpilot said: Hello Jan, I have one PC dedicated to X-plane only and don't have any idea whats wrong now - tried excluding by Defender or G-data all my XP folders (STEAM,XP10,XP11) and in every case your b733 freezes when DIR TO....I am unhappy to stop flying online with this bird until 1.1 comes. Cheers Did you exclude the xp folder and exe on both of the anti virus' or just one? Quote
marpilot Posted February 27, 2017 Report Posted February 27, 2017 Defender is atomatically OFF when G-DATA is ON. Quote
poodster Posted February 27, 2017 Report Posted February 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, marpilot said: Defender is atomatically OFF when G-DATA is ON. Did you exclude the xp folder and exe? I'd exclude these on both just to rule out anything. I know one turns the other off, but better safe than sorry Quote
marpilot Posted February 27, 2017 Report Posted February 27, 2017 No help. I will now disconnect from internet and turn off all antivirus programs (Defender and G-data). Quote
marpilot Posted February 27, 2017 Report Posted February 27, 2017 Antivirus OFF and FMC still is FREEZING !!! Even if it worked I couldn't fly online. Uhhhhh!!! Quote
Tom Stian Posted February 27, 2017 Report Posted February 27, 2017 1 minute ago, marpilot said: Antivirus OFF and FMC still is FREEZING !!! Even if it worked I couldn't fly online. Uhhhhh!!! Please check the other thread u made about my suggestion Quote
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