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Probably unrelated. But you’ll need to post the full log file regardless.

It'll chase the false localizer, behavior of which is a little unpredictable, but most times I've seen people report it'll do 360s repeatedly, maybe with some course reversals mixed in. It's not a pre-programmed response, it's naturally coming from the plane's simulation of the localizer radio signal propagation. You should guide yourself in HDG or LNAV onto an intercept of 30 degrees or less, or better yet, all the way onto the final approach course. Unlike other aircraft, because ATC says "cleared approach" doesn't mean you must/should arm APPR and/or switch to "green needles" manually. It's ok to use the FMS as long as you've switched to using the localizer passing the FAF (or if ATC explicitly say to use the localizer before that, like they often do at LAX, for example). Some more information from irl Challenger pilot and one of our consultants:

I removed the DataRefTool and I was able to load the CL650 but I had a CTD while I was moving in the FBO, the screen froze ? What's going there is a CTD after another one ? No msg on the log.txt this time.

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Hi, It's been a while I haven't flown the CL650, for some reason a month ago I tried to launch it and it was a CTD right away before getting on the tarmac, no matter which version of Xplane12 I run. (Now it's the last 12.2.b5) , the same CTD happened when it was the last released version of Xplane so that I don't think that XP betas are the cause of the issue. Today I decided to uninstall the addon, deleted all files even output/CL650 files and downloaded the same last version from X-Aviation, so it was a fresh installation 1.8. I did two uninstallation/fresh installation from scratch thinking that it will work after deleting old files, no matter what I just can't fly the bird, always CTD when I load the airplane. I even tried without any plugin as Xplane 12 requests it doesn't work because it says that Gizmod64 plugin is missing (sure) I believe that there is Gizmo plug issue but it is a belief. Anyways, with or without my plugins (no flylua scripts) I just can't fly the plane and I'm stuck here Any idea guys? This is what the log.txt says: 0 00007ffff96db699 C:\WINDOWS\System32\KERNELBASE.dll+000000000003b699 () 1 00007fff66fb08c1 D:\Xplane 12\X-Plane 12\Aircraft\X-Aviation\CL650\plugins\systems\win_x64\systems.xpl+00000000008608c1 (read_int_array_cb+141) 2 0000000200000040 D:\Xplane 12\X-Plane 12\X-Plane.exe+0000000200000040 () 3 000001d031a40e10 D:\Xplane 12\X-Plane 12\X-Plane.exe+000001d031a40e10 () 4 0000000200000000 D:\Xplane 12\X-Plane 12\X-Plane.exe+0000000200000000 () 5 00007fff67c34d20 D:\Xplane 12\X-Plane 12\Aircraft\X-Aviation\CL650\plugins\systems\win_x64\systems.xpl+00000000014e4d20 () 6 00000212242f43a0 D:\Xplane 12\X-Plane 12\X-Plane.exe+00000212242f43a0 () --=={This application has crashed because of the plugin: Challenger 650 by Hot Start}==-- --=={FILE: D:\Xplane 12\X-Plane 12\Log_ATC.txt}==--

View File House Livery Hot Start Challenger 650 This is a livery for the Hot Start Challenger 650, inspired by the house livery displayed on Bombardier's website right now. To install, extract the zip file into the "liveries" folder. You can supply your own registration, N650CL is not printed on the cowlings. If you enjoy my work, consider supporting me on Patreon to cover some of the horrendous Adobe-costs ;). Submitter pilotdeviation Submitted 05/10/2025 Category Hot Start Challenger 650  

So did a complete erase of the SSD external drive that I keep XP12 on and then a complete clean install of XP12. I have just reinstalled the SR22 package and now both the standard and turbo configurations work. So, there must have been something, somewhere, that over time worked its way into the system that the turbo version didn't like. My thanks to everyone who spent time trying to figure out what the issue was. I really appreciate that you took the time.

FMS 1 on the PFD shows Hukem, the fms controller shows Hukem in pink. I didn't have the ppos showing as it was on another screen not recorded but on the COPILOT MFD showed me that Hukem was straight ahead. One of the tricks I have found going from PSP to SNA is that there is a coastal mountain range just before the approach. Going from Frets which is on the TEC route (Deway frets kayoh8) direct to Hukem takes me near the 5808 ft peak on the coastal range. If you look on the FMS is shows a 4.7 degree dive to Hukem which also gives me the "no vpath" warning. After analyzing my recent flights I realize that the most prudent method would be requesting direct SAGER (IAF). That takes me parallel to the coastal mountains and gives me a longer shot getting lined up on the approach. Doing this also takes me down the valley so I can get down to approach altitudes much easier. Not the shortest route but the most prudent. You may be correct on the false ILS and the 360 degree turns. The day I was flying, I was not on Pilotedge so I could mess around and see what happened. I was intercepting with about 80 degrees cut and as I got near SAGER it started a turn to the right instead of left toward the airport. I thought maybe it was going to take me into holding to line up but it just started a 360. I went around twice just because I wanted to see if it would give me a warning or some indication of what it was doing. I didn't see anything so I went to HDG mode and lined myself up then engaged the autopilot and all was well. If I approach final at greater than 30 degrees, will it turn short, go into a hold, or do nothing? Thanks for your thoughts.

Thank you @Pils I bought WebFMC to display the screen remotely, and I'm going to program the buttons with Mobiflight. Thanks for your help.

Either it's disconnected, or it's flat. Make sure it's connected in the menu as such: If it's disconnected, connect it; if it's flat, connect the DC generator to start the APU, and the APU will charge the battery.

Two options come to mind: (1) Build you own rendering based on CDU datarefs; or, (2) Use WebFMC in cockpit builder mode.

Hello ev eryone I want to build a CDU with physical button in my cockpit, and I need to export only the screen. What is the solution? This is the first prototype of the CDU front panel made of wood using laser cutting

Hi @Pils I have the same problem, and I'm asking myself several questions: 1/ Why is the APU battery at zero? 2/ I didn't understand how to solve the problem.

What was your flight plan at the time? Looks like it was at least FRETS? This sounds like a false localizer capture, were you intercepting the approach course from an angle larger than 30 degrees?

I wanted to bind a joystick button to the GA button on the throttles, but it's a dataref - no bother, I can add a command to operate it. But in the process of looking for it, I noticed the autopilot disconnect button manipulator on the copilot yoke is mapped to a command that doesn't exist - xscenery/mu2b60/disconnect_servos. The button on the pilot yoke is mapped to sim/autopilot/servos_off_any and works fine!

Agreed with Torbinator. X-Plane 12.2.0 looks fantastic. Clouds / atmosphere and ground is really top notch! The IXEG 737 Baby continues being my favourite before Zibo 737. The FPS is just so great with the IXEG and i think everything works really great (VNAV works good for me aswell). I also got rid of my wierd sound problem in external views so i can enjoy the outside views also. If there is a wishlist i would like following points: 1: Cargo version. 2: working circuit brakers Go Team IXEG!

X-Plane is responsible for how that is rendering, not aircraft developers.

Hello! I encountered with weirdly sharp reflections when moving in the flight deck. XP12.2.0b4 The graphic settings are shown below. Specs: AMD Ryzen 5 7500F 3.7 GHz (4.9 GHz turbo boost) RTX 4060 Ti 8 Gb RAM 32 Gb 5600 MHz SSD M2 ADATA SX8200PNP

There are no add-ons that give a truly accurate representation of what Laminar is drawing for weather. The API is not yet released, but will be in 12.3. Whatever you have seen up till this point is approximation.

Olá, que tem a ver Laminar sobre o radar meteorológico se outros aviões funcionam bem ?

No worries. It's okay to disagree. I wish more of us could do this. All the best.

I've also noted, that when "off', that caution light looks lit, compared with other aircraft I have. Until you look at it when it is really lit. Then it makes sense. Had me confused for a while.