Ola,in my opinion gt5 full version is significantly better, ESP physics wise. Well worth it. I'm now finding it reasonably easy to generate money, especially as my Spec B driver now has an IQ above 85. He gets me $15k in 10 mins. I hope u can eventually win the $20m racecars! Damage progressively appears, I'm at level 15 and have seen a Ferrari bumper start to wobble. At level 40 it becomes carnage, so I'm a Long way from that. something nice to strive for. Im pleased they have made car acquisition harder and some of the features progressive. Once you get into Superbad and racecar league, the standard cars eventually feel pointless, and your humble Trueno gets mothballed. But with improved physics, hopefully that doesn't happen Online is obviously a great addition. But I'm the first to complain about it's ghastly filtering system, I'd love to enter a race for pre-80s under 200hp bombs but good luck.. I hardly played prologue, very disappointed with it. The full is another story Great news about Forza 4! Wish I had a 360 now. Not to be for me, unless it has a massive advantage over gt5, and then Id be pissed at wasting money on GT! Good for competition though.