Edwin said- Thats the point I never flew heavies--who really does FLY heavies? Type in the co-ordinates-press auto/On--then spend the next 2--4 hrs with your head in a copy of Playboy or checking out Facebook! Can't even see Tinsel Town 20,000ft below on a clear day except for the brief take off and landing. GA aircraft you do have to fly--- & I love it. Haha, as real as it gets eh, down to an international captains favourite reference material! Help me everyone, I'm flying Flight too much!! Just past the Pearl Harbour area there's some magnificent steep ranges, definitely prime low n slow material. A nice chap showed me the way online. I was one of the most critical of it on release, now I realise it's very strong threat. It's slick, hits all my buttons and bug free on release. AVSIM is going nuts. The small window of opportunity that xplane had is closing rapidly. Lets hope that between wines there's some big announcements from Mallorca. Gotta go now, another freight job awaits!