Please reread my reply from the previous page. Here it is again, just to save you from going back a page... I NEVER said "there's as much chance of you getting this update before Xmas as me winning the lottery". As Cameron said, it's out when it's out. The files have been submitted and we are now deep into Citation development and troubleshooting a few nagging DC-3 issues. Cameron now has the arduous task of coding the installer for the Saab updates. Something none of us would ever want to touch. We don't want anyone to wait for something you are entitled to, but it is, unfortunately, the way it's panning out to be...and I apologize for that. In saying all that, we'll refrain from posting any timeframes for any updates or future add ons. Without any offence directed towards anyone...now or in the future...any questions on "when will it be released?" will simply be met with "when it's ready". I hope that's fair enough.