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Laminar is doing some major upgrades to xplane for next release, no developer is silly enough to do a major release until it has gone Beta and being tested by a lot of very picky consumers. I should add, "some very Vocal", consumers.

It may be that many still use 11 but its not financially good for developers to spend time on products that few are buying, for older vers, Most developers have moved on and most users have learned to live with it.

@Bulva Is this all you can do, two forums now, whos next, XPLANE is alive and well, no one believes the naysayers any more, Always the same people, every time. Wait till 12.1b comes out and see forums explode with complaints.

Well if you cant fly it you have problems. Its not unflyable is it??

The only thing that people need to be concerned about is the internet, we all assume it will always be with us, and electricity, thats another issue, witout either of those, doesn't matter who you purchased from, its all scrap.

No idea of what there is to be concerned about.

I guess you never read anything, FMOD is happening now, FMS getting rewrite( thats to use xplane data, that is a heck of a lot of work), it already has new flight model, I believe new textures on way. Really, I guess they should of just dropped it and annoyed more people, Bests 737 out there. Is a lot of work to upgrade to XP12 why do you thing some planes still slowly getting upgraded. Disappointed in the disappointed.

This is a lot of work, if it was so simple, dont expect it to be done any time soon as it is going to be updated to use xp12 data instead of its own.

think youll be dreaming for a long time.

Maybe it is a network thing, just showing up as something else.

Mine works perfectly fine. Your not trying to run tehe Gizmo beta ver with this are you.

Posted this elsewhere, though there it seemed to be unimportant. So here First off, this does not require any skill, and reading it wont break XPLANE. Secondly, this contains lots of useful info for us to look at when you have an issue, posting the bits you think are broken helps no one. Post the whole log. log.txt gets written over, every time you run xplane as does the LOG_ATC.txt which is required for ATC issues. When you install XPLANE you get a xlane installerlog.txt i believe you will find on your desktop. gas same info plus install issues A lot of developers now add there logs to this file to keep it all in one place Examples of what we see from my log. Important bits highlighted Log.txt for X-Plane 12.0.8-beta-2 (build 120806 Intel 64-bit, Vulkan f50012d4d301f52e9e43a938cfc6b106cbf7dca3) Compiled on Nov 13 2023 14:18:40 X-Plane Started on Sat Nov 18 18:39:27 2023 _________ Windows 10.0 (build 19045/2) This is a 64-bit version of Windows. CPU type: 8664 Physical Memory (total for computer): 34275860480 Maximum Virtual Memory (for X-Plane only): 140737488224256 CPU 0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700K CPU @ 3.80GHz Speed (mhz): 3792 ________ Vulkan Device : NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 (99fc000000) Vulkan Version : 1.3.242 Vulkan Driver : 537.58.0 This bit will show Zink when enabled OpenGL Vendor : NVIDIA Corporation OpenGL Render : NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070/PCIe/SSE2 (99fc000000) OpenGL Version : 4.6.0 NVIDIA 537.58 (460/0) Standard AMD OpenGL Vendor : ATI Technologies Inc. OpenGL Render : AMD Radeon Pro 580X OpenGL Engine OpenGL Version : 2.1 ATI-4.6.20 (210/0) AMD with Zink enablked OpenGL bridge device: OpenGL Vendor : Mesa OpenGL Render : zink (AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT) OpenGL Version : 4.6 (Compatibility Profile) Mesa 23.1.0-devel (git-69450f8631) (460/0) From Linux OpenGL bridge device: OpenGL Vendor : AMD OpenGL Render : AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT (sienna_cichlid, LLVM 13.0.1, DRM 3.42, 5.15.0-48-generic) OpenGL Version : 4.6 (Compatibility Profile) Mesa 22.0.5 (460/0) From Mac OpenGL Vendor : Apple OpenGL Render : Apple M1 Ultra () OpenGL Version : 2.1 Metal - 86 (210/0) So you see why we and Laminar require your whole log. That is a lot of important info, Than we have a list of your plugins, you cant hide them AviTab version 0.6.3 Loaded: I:\X-Plane 12/Resources/plugins/AviTab/win_x64/AviTab.xpl And most important errors. [XPUIPC/64/win.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/cockpit/pressure/cabin_altitude_actual_m_msl' has been replaced. Please use the new name. Your scenery list - I found the following scenery packages (prioritized in this order): 0 Custom Scenery/_KPHX_Scenery_Pack/ 1 Custom Scenery/SCSN/ 2 Custom Scenery/ypac/ 3 Custom Scenery/Perth - YPPH/ 4 Custom Scenery/FACT-Cape Town/ 5 Custom Scenery/FAOR-OR TAMBO/ 6 Custom Scenery/YBRK-Rockhampton/ 7 Custom Scenery/PHNL - Working/ 8 Custom Scenery/YBCS - Cairns/ 9 Custom Scenery/KPDX/ 10 Custom Scenery/KSEA/ Network Info 0:00:00.000 I/NET: WiFi (Intel(R) Wi-Fi 6 AX201 160MHz) 192.168.20.31 0:00:00.000 I/NET: WiFi (Intel(R) Wi-Fi 6 AX201 160MHz) 2403:5809:4788:0:e855:6e43:be6a:8362 0:00:00.000 I/NET: WiFi (Intel(R) Wi-Fi 6 AX201 160MHz) fdf6:4551:6cbc:0:e855:6e43:be6a:8362 0:00:00.000 I/NET: (RakNet) Init: Successful! 0:00:00.000 I/NET: Networking initialized successfully AI aircraft loaded 0:00:14.917 I/FCG: Loading AI aircraft Aircraft/AI/B717/Qantas/b717.acf The plane you loaded 0:00:14.917 I/ACF: Loading airplane number 0 with Aircraft/Laminar Research/Cessna 172 SP/Cessna_172SP_EFM2.acf This is all important, Now its not hard to find errors. Really. Examples [Scenic-Flyer/64/win.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/flightmodel/position/magpsi' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [Scenic-Flyer/64/win.xpl]: It is illegal to register a command starting with sim/ [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/shear_speed_kt[2]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. --=={This application has crashed because of the plugin: Challenger 650 by Hot Start}==-- Most common one, could be caused by a few things --=={This application has crashed!}==-- (Art controls are modified.) more 0:13:50.458 E/SOUN: The sound event event:/CLICKSPOT_EVENTS/KNOBS/SingleTick4 has an invalid command trigger RXP/GTN/VOL_CCW_1 See it aint hard, its not rocket science, we got here because on day we looked at our log.txt and wondered what it meant. Enjoy

Its an issue that needs addressing by xplane, they all seem to rely upon different parameters, and even in hangers you will get rail, as it xplane doesnt know if surface is inside or outside, unless they come up with a poly taxiway that is inside only that doesnt show rain.

Yes this one not the first and wont be the last, I think some people write before they have there coffee in the morning.

But seems you are the only one with this issue, so it not necessarily the plane. Could be many things. Just dont go to external view, different airport... is your pc power supply enough,

Thats nice but dont expect any help without your log.txt after it happens . Standard practice. my crystal ball is broken.

His log shows no addons, but gizmo throwing an error [Gizmo64]: Dataref 'sim/flightmodel/position/magpsi' has been replaced. Please use the new name. @eomer My advice try loading ixeg direct or after a simpler plane like a 172. Trying to load one complex addon after another can crash xplane. Does it to me on many planes.

It could be the sound just wait till the FMod update comes out, who knows

@Sluijsens could be something stupid like the network adapter or even driver, being an IT expert jm sure you though of that.

Is not a lie. It is as how he put it, I got mine, did you check your junk email, probably got deleted.

Do you have some other complex aircraft, and how does it perform, This plane still has some optimization for XP12, just wait for next update, Be nice to see a screen shot of the laminar plugin admin performance showing whats going on, panning and not panning but you must understand panning around a complex airport requires xplane to load a lot of textures as you pan, that why a fast CPU and lots of cores help.

@VirtualGAaviator Ye got temporary smack over the wrist over there, i dont understand the mods over there. They wanted to "preview" all my posts for a month so I simply didnt post. Quiet here but so it is on the other forum.

Whg shouldng it be, dont use logitech drivers windows ones will do. Just plug it in.

Be nice to see your log.txt, but if you are using the logitech drivers its probably half your problem

Surprised xplane loads at all.