Cameron

Hi, Oliver, As stated, unless the following topic is followed we cannot easily assist with this matter: http://forums.x-pilot.com/index.php?topic=2486.0 There are guidelines and topics as well as what to post in those topics to help us assist with such an issue. Thanks!

Depends on the circumstances. It's generally preferred, but there are cases on non-exclusivity even at X-Aviation. In the instance of the Q400 I don't believe that is the case. Armchair is Jack/Joe's site, and considering it's presumably to be sold on both sites it's not an exclusivity deal. This could just as easily have to deal with a description revision as I stated above.

I was directly answering your comment of: "I was under the impression that it was only sold at armchair aviation."

Where a developer sells their product is their choice. If Jack chooses to sell at the org and also distribute on his own site (armchair) then he felt it right to do. No idea on why it would appear and disappear. Perhaps it was pre-maturely released, or they are altering descriptive info on the product. No idea! Best of luck on the Q400 sales, guys.

Hi, Oliver, I know this defies your price budget, but I highly do suggest the Bose A20. They run more expensive, but you WILL appreciate your investment if you plan to stick with flying. Odd as it may be, on longer flights they also help with fatigue. There are many other noise cancel headsets out there, some cheaper, but I have found Bose to be the best in selection. No, I'm not a Bose "fanboy." Considering your budget, Bose has a nice no-interest program, and it is NOT credit or a credit card. They are simple monthly payments that don't require any kind of application or acceptance into the program, and because it's not a form of credit it does not require a credit check or affect your credit score at all. Looking at their site right now, they have two options. The lowest option is $91.33/month for 12 months. By the end of your payments, you end up paying the exact same amount you would have if you pre-bought at the regular price (well...kind of...it's a one penny difference). You should definitely check this out if you're serious about keeping your flying career going for the foreseeable future! They'll last you a very long time!

http://forums.x-pilot.com/index.php?topic=2486.0

Read my post above, Steven. There are reasons and logistics involved. I lightly touched on this as to reasons why it's not done in that way. As a customer it may never make sense. As someone involved very directly to what's going on with Gizmo it makes perfect sense. It is what it is, and I believe very firmly in my post just above yours. Good on ya for your purchase. Thanks for supporting Ben's efforts!

You'll find that the Saab is heavily optimized and will perform very well (much better than even the CRJ, actually). No need to even worry about it.

That "register Gizmo" screen should not be coming up. Something is definitely going wrong with your installation...missing files somewhere, or outdated files somehow. If this problem persists, please contact X-Aviation for further assistance: http://www.x-aviation.com/catalog/contact_us.php

Assuming you are on Windows, it sounds as though you are missing a necessary module. My guess would be an improper install of OpenAL. Please download and install the following, then try loading the CRJ again: http://connect.creativelabs.com/openal/Downloads/oalinst.zip

Arno, et all, The point of this is everyone is right. I am right, Joe is right, Ben is right, and even Ed is right. We all have our OWN opinions. The REALITY is acceptance. What is truly "right" and fact is that Gizmo is currently deployed in the fashion it is, and we must accept that. The reality is also that suggested methods in this thread have been tried...they did not work. The reality is also that the return of investment to do what some would suggest is "right" is not there, and should you want that method X-Aviation has that solution for your customers all while Ben gets a slice of the pie. It is also reality that majority of funding or existence from the beginning of Gizmo's entrance of the commercial market was due to X-Aviation products. Ben has had the idea of Gizmo for ages (and thank God for it!). X-Aviation products (be it publicly seen or not) were the push to get it done. What we must face is that Gizmo is distributed how it is, it IS a small fee, it IS a tried and true model that does work to bring Ben cash (like it or not!), and Gizmo DOES give power to developers to get things done. Those are the facts, those are the pre-requisites to know as developers, and those are the realizations developers must face. With those realizations comes responsibility of alerting customers by informing them of how Gizmo works. I view the problem here not so much to do with the fact a customer can (not has to) purchase a license to rid of the nag screen, but to alert customers that Gizmo is in use, the conditions in which it is used, and why it is so valuable to the customer (not only for one said project, but for many in the future). With these things in mind, I do firmly believe customers will realize Gizmo's existence and importance. For now, it's just a name to those that don't develop. However, getting the word out there to non-developers and why Gizmo is important will also help others "see the light." It is how it is. X-Aviation has an edge through not only contract, but also infrastructure. Years of it. Such an infrastructure to duplicate would not be economical, nor is it within scope of any agreement in place. Facts. We must face them. Spreading the word of how important Gizmo is to our future will also help. That is and should be the responsibility of all developers, myself included. I am forever grateful for Ben's drive and efforts put into this fantastic project. Thanks, Ben!

Somewhere along the line it looks like you have somehow removed some files. I would highly suggest running the installer for the CRJ. It will uninstall and re-install for you all the necessary files.

Not sure what's going on with you today, Dozer. YYZ never changed his name, and was not the same person you are talking about. You're thinking of David Rogers, he changed his name to "He who is not welcome here" and last I checked still has it that way. Thread here: http://forums.x-pilot.com/index.php?topic=2675.0 Not the same people. Not the same situation.

Wouldn't it just be easier if you cared only about what matters to you, and not made a stink about what doesn't? Some people like it, others (like you) see no benefit. Use what you care about in this forum. Block everything else out.

Did they? Last I heard straight from his mouth he liked them.

Ed, get serious. Just because we have differing opinions on Gizmo's model doesn't mean I don't like you expressing yourself. What I DON'T like is you starting topics and then feeling that you can get them closed when it only satisfies you. If you feel that's how it should be then you're definitely wrong there, and in such instances you need to take it up in PM. I am not the one throwing a temper tantrum here about never buying products if certain demands aren't meant. This is the same temperament we experienced from you in the RealScenery thread. It's really not necessary.

Way to take it to the extreme.

No, Ed. And you have a tendency to do this. You create threads and regret doing so later on with a request to do so because you feel attacked...or something. Last recollection of this was with the $5 fee for a download key for RealScenery. My comments are not necessarily directed at just you in this topic. Like you, they are directed to you AND consumers. I am not just trying to solve "your" problem. FSUIPC is necessary for MANY apps out there. There are some that don't require it. There are many others that do, and I have them as well. My stance and view on this subject has not changed.

The way Ben is approaching this is also done in the FS world all the time. First thing that comes to mind is FSUIPC or WideFS. These products run the same "model" as Gizmo and are highly successful. As the market evolves you will NEED to come to expect this, Ed. I'm sorry, but it can't always be tailored to you, and while you're not alone in your assessment (I'm sure of that), it is part of the "growing up" process for X-Plane and IS healthy. Perhaps in time you'll see why. Quite simply: If you purchase a $10 Gizmo license you will have your nag screen disappear for EVERY aircraft that EVER uses Gizmo from that one-time, simple $10 purchase. It's really as easy going as that. This is NOT an every aircraft affair. Yes, the developer should disclose the issue, and it sounds like Jack and Joe have done so now. The logistics of incorporating the license into products like the Dash is not there, and to do so would require far more investment than return for Ben. X-Aviation has long time worked for the infrastructure we have in place to accomodate this (years), but it's not something that can be cross-deployed. That's the reality of it, and I see it fair. Even more-so because Gizmo still WORKS full on without purchasing a license, unlike the FS counterparts they call FSUIPC and WideFS.

That's your prerogative. The CRJ-200, Falco, Corvalis and any other products on XA do not have this. You simply reverting back to an older version will cause issue, and if you find it not worthy to purchase a $5 license (which is not mandatory to begin with) at promo discount so that planes that are not sold on X-Aviation don't have the nag screen then that's up to you! Simple solution: 1) Keep the nag screen and the Gizmo that works with X-Aviation products and don't buy a license for all non X-Aviation products. 2) Buy a license for all gizmo aircraft at only $5 currently and keep all you X-Aviation products happy as well (they'll be just as happy in option #1) 3) Use Jack's method and break your X-Aviation add-ons. Simple solution. What you do with it is your choice!

Which will now render your X-Aviation purchases no good. You'll understand what I mean when you try to open one up with this older version of Gizmo Jack is suggesting.

Guys, We're having two different topics here. The context of my speech is STRICTLY about Gizmo and its worth. If the developer fails to disclaim the fact that they have a nag screen with their product I certainly agree it SHOULD be disclosed with info as to why it's there, that it is there, and how to get rid of it. Ed, Can you please share what this supposed work around is?

Aha. Well, I can agree with you there to an extent. You'll need to take that up with the fine folks at armchair. You "don't" need to purchase anything additional. The aircraft works, full featured as the author made it, with or without the added license. It's not mandatory. It's optional. *shameless plug*...developers who sell at X-Aviation will have their products exempt from this screen popping up as a license is embedded for our products and customers into our DRM. Again, because the product DOES work with or without the license it's not the same analogy you have used here. For you as an end customer, I suppose that could be true. The reality is this: Gizmo has been about 5 or so years in development to make life easier on developers. Ben Russell has worked very hard on this. I see no harm in getting the name out there and giving the power to developers to develop faster for FREE. All a customer needs to do is pay a one-time $10 fee to get rid of the shareware logo and that same $10 purchase is good across ALL aircraft you buy that will use Gizmo. Considering Ben's work is near enterprise level, this is absurdly cheap and this community should be appreciating this effort rather than trying to bash it. If you're willing to look around the Gizmo forums there's also a way to currently get the serial for Gizmo for a measly $5 fee with a special promo code.

I'm genuinely curious, and please don't take this the wrong way... What is your objection to supporting a platform (Gizmo) that is going to allow developers to rapidly create products they never would have been able to before without tons more work? It benefits you in the end, and $10 for ALL of the products you use it for seems like a great shareware price to me!

Ok, all, This topic has definitely ran it's course now. Topic closed. David said his peace, and my official answer back to him is here: http://forums.x-pilot.com/index.php?topic=2675.msg25010#msg25010 There were some obvious, blatant lies in his postings, and this should be easily evident with all the email correspondence I have now publicly posted with him. As my suggestion to him, he has also now re-posted his negative review, this time keeping the review on topic and pertaining to the product instead of a personal bash. For this, his review can remain just like anyone else who posts a negative review. I think it's important people see others' honest take on products to assist not only customers in buying products, but also for us to improve on what our customers feel needs improving on. Thanks for reading and chiming in. Cam