LES Saab 340A and SkyMaxx Pro combo

[arb65912]

Gentlemen,

 

I was trying to see if I can reach FL310 as per manual and I was short few hundred feet but the reason for this post is that I wanted to share the beautiful combo of  LES Saab 340A and SkyMaxx Pro while flying.

 

I still had problems when I wanted to record video using external view but maybe that will be improved in new release of Saab.

 

Other than that I love the como and I am becoming Saab "addict" 

 

Sky looks SO much better than before SMP and the aircraft itself is amazing, now digging into the documentation to learn more.

 

Enjoy the video, try full screen and HD on Youtube, you will love what you see.

 

Cheers, AJ 

 

Edited December 16, 2013 by arb65912

[arb65912]

Gentlemen,

 

Since the Saab update is around the corner, I made one more video "before"

 

Believe it or not, I am having a ball with LES Saab 340 A, can not wait for update so I can take more videos with the outside views.

 

Some of the external views are achieved by "cheating", moving from the inside of the 3D cockpit using arrows, not keys for preselected views.

 

I am afraid that this plane will become my favorite one, it is a bit old but still in service ... just like me. 

 

Cheers, AJ 

 

Edited December 19, 2013 by arb65912

[canox]

Nice vids man! Just bought the SAAB myself and am loving it.  Also SMP is unbelievably impressive!

 

Wondering what sky colours you prefer in SMP?

[arb65912]

Hi Canox,

 

I could not agree with you more.

 

It would be hard now to switch back to default XP clouds after what SkyMaxx Pro is giving us. See attached, it is .jpeg screenshot ( for the posting size of the file  , instead of png full screen).

I was testing if I can use X-FMC with Saab and yes, it works just fine.

I was flying to Jackson Hole , WY KJAC and what I saw on the approach was just like in real life .

The attached picture was before that, later on I wish I was able to make a video but I was busy with approach, did not want to take chances. 

 

Many thanks for SkyMaxx Developers, I have said it many times and I say it again, if something is good, it is never too much of giving credit for it.

 

As far as sky color, I think the most times I use True Blue High Contrast but others are also great.

 

SAAB is a fantastic plane, for the last few weeks I was flying it almost exclusively and I absolutely love it.

 

The only thing is that if the flight is longer I am not able to shoot video using outside view ( cockpit is still fine) because frame rate drops to single digits.

If the flight is much longer , over 2 hrs, I can not continue at all for the same reason.

 

I have read and heard many times and I am sure that will be fixed in upcoming SAAB update, we just need to be patient and I am. 

 

Other than that LES Saab 340A is an outstanding piece of programming and modeling, when the update comes up, I will be one happy user.

 

I was so excited about the realism of the SAAB that I opened a thread in the VA forums talking with real pilot of SAAB ( he is a F/O on version about how close the simulation is and he confirmed that the plane acts just like the real deal.

 

Take a look at my take off  video.

 

You will like when you watch it on youtube, full screen and HD mode.

 

Thank you again the whole Leading Edge Simulations Team for this great aircraft.

 

Cheers, AJ 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 4, 2014 by arb65912

[canox]

Yea I like gushing about my favorite addons too.. I know the developers appreciate the positive comments.

 

Nice vid again.. haha I like the photo you added to the cockpit, very cute.

 

 

This is the first plane I go through the whole checklist aloud to myself and say 'Check' after each step lol.  

[arb65912]

He, he, yes, I am over excited when it comes to flying.  

 

My comments are always honest, I had a very bad ones in the past but it partially my fault.  

 

When the credit is due, it is nice to show the appreciation and if I was a developer I would sure like that.

 

Photo in the cockpit, thanks, well, I like to add a personal touch to the plane, makes me feel like I was really flying it, same with the reg numbers, N242BM I use on VATSIM so I put it there.

 

As far as the checklists, the one I made just for myself is Take Off procedure and follow it step by step.

 

Excellent plane, can not wait till I can take video from the outside view, now FPS just drops to single digit.

 

Cheers, AJ   

[JohnMAXX]

The whole development crew associated with X-Aviation are fantastic btw. I'm a newbie here myself and happy to be involved with yhe group. Thanks for the kuddos guys it does mean a lot hearing some positive feedback....

[arb65912]

You are welcome John, your response for SMP user inputs were immediate and that also counts a lot. Great job, Cheers, AJ 

[CaptainGlick]

The tutorial doesnt seem very accurate to me.  I tried following it and was having a host of issues.  From low to no climb rate, to once i was finally able to get her to 21000 I could not get her to increase speed.  I pressed the IAS on the auto pilot control panel and moved the bug to 180 kts but nothing.  The nose remained high and the speed remained at about 150-160 kts. 

[Cameron]

The tutorial doesnt seem very accurate to me. I tried following it and was having a host of issues. From low to no climb rate, to once i was finally able to get her to 21000 I could not get her to increase speed. I pressed the IAS on the auto pilot control panel and moved the bug to 180 kts but nothing. The nose remained high and the speed remained at about 150-160 kts.

You do realize that changing the speed bug has no effect on the IAS speed, right? Maybe you don't. The aircraft reacted exactly how it should have as you described it.

[JGregory]

The tutorial doesnt seem very accurate to me.  I tried following it and was having a host of issues.  From low to no climb rate, to once i was finally able to get her to 21000 I could not get her to increase speed.  I pressed the IAS on the auto pilot control panel and moved the bug to 180 kts but nothing.  The nose remained high and the speed remained at about 150-160 kts. 

As the aircraft has been on the market for over 4 months and NO ONE else has reported this as an issue, I would suggest that you are doing something wrong.

 

You do realize that changing the speed bug has no effect on the IAS speed, right? Maybe you don't. The aircraft reacted exactly how it should have as you described it.

Not completely correct… when you set the bug on the airspeed indicator you are also setting the selected speed for the autopilot IAS mode.

[Cameron]

Not completely correct… when you set the bug on the airspeed indicator you are also setting the selected speed for the autopilot IAS mode.

Regardless of any bug, lack of use of throttle and assuming it will react in an autothrottle-like way is incorrect.

The aircraft cannot continue to climb and increase speed if not enough power is provided.

[CaptainGlick]

Regardless of any bug, lack of use of throttle and assuming it will react in an autothrottle-like way is incorrect. The aircraft cannot continue to climb and increase speed if not enough power is provided.

I knew i wasn't crazy.  It said this on page 13 of the tutorial.  It says on page 12, When turning off CTOT, DO NOT increase power to maintain your climb.  This is now your CLIMB power. (caps preserved as in the tutorial).  It then says to hit climb again to change it to medium climb rate, and upon reach 11000, press IAS and adjust the speed by setting the speedbug to 160 kts. And if i want to adjust the rate of climb to move the speed bug back or forth slightly.  Lowering the speedbug, will cause the nose to pitch up and increase climb rate it says.  But once im at 21000 and I've conditioned the props to 1300 rpms or so and set power to 80 degrees, i still only get about 160 kts speed, with a precarious up attitude.  Even if i rotate the speedbug to 180 kts.

[CaptainGlick]

I also had this happen to me while flying it.  I sent an email to x-aviation about it but haven't heard anything back yet...

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=dgp9ww&s=8#.Uu8JB7RkZjZ

[JGregory]

Regardless of any bug, lack of use of throttle and assuming it will react in an autothrottle-like way is incorrect.

The aircraft cannot continue to climb and increase speed if not enough power is provided.

The aircraft will respond to changes in the "selected" airspeed if there is enough power available.  Whether the aircraft can achieve the "desired" airspeed is, of course, partly due to the throttle position, however CaptainGlick never stated what his throttle position was, so, one cannot not assume it is strictly a throttle problem.  In any event, stating …  "You do realize that changing the speed bug has no effect on the IAS speed, right?"  … is not correct (as I stated) because the bug absolutely does set the "desired" airspeed when in IAS mode.  I wanted to make sure users of the Saab were clear on this, that is all. 

[Cameron]

The aircraft will respond to changes in the "selected" airspeed if there is enough power available. Whether the aircraft can achieve the "desired" airspeed is, of course, partly due to the throttle position, however CaptainGlick never stated what his throttle position was, so, one cannot not assume it is strictly a throttle problem. In any event, stating … "You do realize that changing the speed bug has no effect on the IAS speed, right?" … is not correct (as I stated) because the bug absolutely does set the "desired" airspeed when in IAS mode. I wanted to make sure users of the Saab were clear on this, that is all.

There was no further debate to your point. Pretty safe to say we have a close enough idea to throttle position, Jim. He's following the tutorial and using CTOT. Diagnosing this is not tough and the answer lies in lack of power to achieve proper speed and climb combined.

To the original poster, Goran has specified in another thread that the particular section of the tutorial you refer to was mistyped and you should definitely control the power levers after your climb has been initiated.

[JGregory]

There was no further debate to your point. Pretty safe to say we have a close enough idea to throttle position, Jim. He's following the tutorial and using CTOT. Diagnosing this is not tough and the answer lies in lack of power to achieve proper speed and climb combined. To the original poster, Goran has specified in another thread that the particular section of the tutorial you refer to was mistyped and you should definitely control the power levers after your climb has been initiated.

No debate … just want to be sure users understand that they CAN set the IAS using the bug.

[Cameron]

No debate … just want to be sure users understand that they CAN set the IAS using the bug.

I would hope you saying it three times in a row gets the point across.

[JGregory]

I would hope you saying it three times in a row gets the point across.

Repetition is how people retain information, especially when the subject becomes diluted by conflicting posts.

[Cameron]

I wouldn't consider this diluted just yet, especially given the relevance of discussion, but I digress. I trust our customer here is diligent enough to thoroughly read and comprehend, just as he has indicated by following the tutorial and recognizing the confusion of the confirmed mistype.

 

Cpt. Glick: Please do let us know how you get along with using your power levers, and for the sake of sanity, ignore my singular speed bug comment.

[CaptainGlick]

There was no further debate to your point. Pretty safe to say we have a close enough idea to throttle position, Jim. He's following the tutorial and using CTOT. Diagnosing this is not tough and the answer lies in lack of power to achieve proper speed and climb combined. To the original poster, Goran has specified in another thread that the particular section of the tutorial you refer to was mistyped and you should definitely control the power levers after your climb has been initiated.

Do you have a link to this thread?  Is there an updated tutorial?  I am following the tutorial to the letter.  Perhaps that is the problem.  Upon takeoff, I set autocoarsen on, and CTOT.  I twist the CTOT torque setting to a little shy of 110 ~ 108.  I then push the throttle forward slowly until CTOT takes effect.  at 105-110 kts i pull up.  Once in my climb I go through the climb checklist and switch off autocoarsen, and CTOT.  at 21000 I have conditioned my props to about 1300 RPM.  My power setting is at 80 degrees (according to the tutorial).  Looking at the guages, at this point my engine power is just shy of being in the red (i.e. i cant add more throttle without overstressing the engines)  At this point I'm doing about 160kts and I can't figure out how to increase speed at this point.  If i press IAS nothing happens (the light doesnt come on)  I guess IAS is just for climbs.  So here i am, wondering how i can increase my speed, if my throttles are maxed (at 80 degrees as per the tutorial) and props conditioned at 1330 or so RPMs.  On a side note, can i assign the autopilot lever to a key? having to look down and activate it while im only 500 ft AGL and trying to fly the airplane has almost proven hazardous to my virtual health  

[Cameron]

Do you have a link to this thread?

 

Please see here.

 

Is there an updated tutorial?

 

Not yet. This is really the only mistype within it.

[CaptainGlick]

Here is a picture with my engine settings visible.  I can't go faster then 160 knots unless i put the nose down and lose altitude.  My throttle is maxed out.  If I add any more throttle, my engines will overheat and catch fire and my prop RPM is at about 1300 (see the dials).  Notice the nose is pitched up at about 5 degrees.  I don't understand how I can speed up my cruise.  160 kts is only 30 knots faster then my cessna goes! Surely a twin engine turbo prop at FL210 can go faster then that!  CTOT is off, as is autocoarsen and prop sync is on of course.  Any help or insights would be much appreciated..

http://feb.imghost.us/ADZX.png

Edited February 3, 2014 by CaptainGlick

[Cameron]

For starters, you should move your condition levers forward after you have deactivated CTOT for your climb.

[CaptainGlick]

For starters, you should move your condition levers forward after you have deactivated CTOT for your climb.

I understand that.  During initial climb, my condition levers are at MAX.  According to the tutorial it says once you get to 21000 feet, that you should slightly pull your condition levers back a bit so the prop RPM reads about 1300-1330 RPM