Need halp. RTFM isn't working. Behringer device

[Hengelo]

I've RTFM'd till I'm blue in the face but I'm having all kinds of problems:

Encoders (Dials): Velocity seems to increase from 0 to 127 with clockwise turns. Counter clockwise turns register as velocity 0. Both directions  are control change = 1

Here is the syntax from my file:

 # Encoders
  { ch = 11, cc = 1,  type = "enc", command_up = "sim/instruments/barometer_up", command_down = "sim/instruments/barometer_down" },

This seems like pretty basic stuff but I'm blocked.

[Gitjester]

Behringer-Software: On the Encoder (with CC 1) you have to select "Relative".

2.nd option is to use "range" in Xmidictrl. https://mauer.github.io/xmidictrl/#/inbound_mapping_encoder

[Hengelo]

what is the syntax for selecting "Relative"?

[Pils]

mode = "relative",

[Hengelo]

I appreciate the help. I'm seriously struggling. This syntax gives me no joy. 

(I'm looking in the "commands.txt" file in Planes=>Resources=>Plugins for valid commands)

 { ch = 11, cc = 1,  mode = "relative" , type = "enc", command_up = "sim/GPS/g1000n1_hdg_up" },

[Pils]

Maybe you need to try range? The default is relative already.

[Hengelo]

I really need some more help. Data ref editor just shows multiple data refs for what seem like the same value.

Also the backlights on the Behringer sometimes are lit on the encoders and sometimes aren't. In both cases data is getting through to xplane though.

Why is this so painfully difficult?

[Gitjester]

Which Behringer model do you use?

Can you choose in your Behringer-Software (Editor for the device) "Relative"?

[Pils]

VirtualCPT includes layers for the X-Touch Mini and they work perfectly for me, at least.

[Hengelo]

23 hours ago, Gitjester said:

Which Behringer model do you use?

Can you choose in your Behringer-Software (Editor for the device) "Relative"?

I have an xtouch mini. How would the Behringer software interact with the plugin? I'm struggling with the text file/configuration for xplane I'm not sure how the Behringer software fits in that equation.

[Hengelo]

23 hours ago, Pils said:

VirtualCPT includes layers for the X-Touch Mini and they work perfectly for me, at least.

"VirtualCPT"? Virtual cockpit? How...?

[Pils]

@VirtualCPT, the person who wrote the plugin.

[Pils]

11 minutes ago, Hengelo said:

I have an xtouch mini. How would the Behringer software interact with the plugin? I'm struggling with the text file/configuration for xplane I'm not sure how the Behringer software fits in that equation.

You have to use the Behringer software to set up the X-Touch to work best (at all?) with the plugin.

https://mauer.github.io/xmidictrl/#/behringer_xtouch_mini

Edited May 4, 2022 by Pils

[Hengelo]

27 minutes ago, Pils said:

You have to use the Behringer software to set up the X-Touch to work best (at all?) with the plugin.

https://mauer.github.io/xmidictrl/#/behringer_xtouch_mini

<pounds head slowly on desk>

 

[Hengelo]

On 5/2/2022 at 7:27 AM, Gitjester said:

Behringer-Software: On the Encoder (with CC 1) you have to select "Relative".

2.nd option is to use "range" in Xmidictrl. https://mauer.github.io/xmidictrl/#/inbound_mapping_encoder

Where exactly does one select "Relative" in the Behringer software? Behavior seems to be either momentary or toggle. No other choice.

[Gitjester]

Relative is available on the Encoder Tab.... MIN .... you have to change from 0 to Relative.

Momentary or Toggle are for the Buttons.

[Hengelo]

Found and tried switching to Relative. Even with the stock configuration suggested at

Behringer X-Touch Mini (mauer.github.io)

I got nothin.

[Gitjester]

MIDI channel 11?

Channel 11 is default for Xmidictrl.

[Hengelo]

Oh sweet fancy Moses I got it to work!!! I think I never properly "dumped" the configuration from xmidi controller. Thank you guys for the help. I was at my wits end!

Can I get a second B layer for the encoders or no?

 

[Gitjester]

4 hours ago, Hengelo said:

Can I get a second B layer for the encoders or no?

 

Yes..... select for LayerB another CC as on LayerA.

For Example: Encoder 1 on LayerA = CC1, Encoder 1 on LayerB = CC9

[Hengelo]

6 hours ago, Gitjester said:

Yes..... select for LayerB another CC as on LayerA.

For Example: Encoder 1 on LayerA = CC1, Encoder 1 on LayerB = CC9

That makes sense, but something is wrong. When I flip-flop to layer B all the buttons & encoders remain on their settings for layer A.

Is there some magic I need to do with the x-touch editor first?

Edited May 6, 2022 by Hengelo
typo

[Gitjester]

Load "Presets on computer" or "GET A" (from Hardware)  ........  edit your settings .......... and dump "To Hardware" (Dump A).

After that:

Load "Presets on computer" or "GET B" (from Hardware)  ........  edit your settings .......... and dump "To Hardware" (Dump B).

 

[Hengelo]

Here are the two layers - they look identical. Here is the configuration text:

 

  #--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  # Layer B
  #--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  # Slider
  { ch = 11, cc = 50, type = "sld", command_up = "", command_middle = "", command_down = "" },
  
  # Encoders
  { ch = 11, cc = 41, type = "enc", command_up = "sim/radios/stby_com1_coarse_down", command_down = "sim/radios/stby_com1_coarse_up" },
  { ch = 11, cc = 42, type = "enc", command_up = "sim/radios/stby_com2_coarse_down", command_down = "sim/radios/stby_com2_coarse_up" },
  { ch = 11, cc = 43, type = "enc", command_up = "sim/radios/stby_com1_fine_down", command_down = "sim/radios/stby_com1_fine_up" },
  { ch = 11, cc = 44, type = "enc", command_up = "sim/radios/stby_com2_coarse_down", command_down = "sim/radios/stby_com2_coarse_up" },
  { ch = 11, cc = 45, type = "enc", command_up = "sim/instruments/barometer_up", command_down = "sim/instruments/barometer_down" },
  { ch = 11, cc = 46, type = "enc", command_up = "", command_down = "" },
  { ch = 11, cc = 47, type = "enc", command_up = "", command_down = "" },
  { ch = 11, cc = 48, type = "enc", command_up = "", command_down = "" },

 

 

[Gitjester]

I think for starters you can use the examples in the examples folder or you need to edit the files to your liking.

Not easy I know.... it's worth it though.

You have to understand how to use the files and how to change them.

 

It took me 2 weeks.

[Hengelo]

I think I understand how to use the XMidiCTL files (so much trial & error) but the x-touch controller is voodoo to me. Everything looks like it should work :/