Goran_M Posted June 9, 2009 Report Posted June 9, 2009 After making about 15 aircraft (Mostly GA stuff) in Planemaker, I've decided to make a possible payware model. The Hawker 4000. I was going to make a 747-400 but Javier told me it would be too much for a beginner in the 3D world, like me, and so I started on the smaller stuff. I have a lot of documentation on the Hawker and I know someone who owns one so I can get a lot of detailed photos on some of the hard to get areas.I've made as complete a model as I could with Planemaker and a lot of time was spent moving vertices around to make it look as smooth and accurate as possible within the constraints of Planemaker.Today, I have started on the 3D version using Blender. I was trying to get used to 3DS MAX but I think Blender is easier to get used to.Anyway, 1st screenshot of the planemaker version. I have added some more Misc Bodies onto the actual plane since this screenshot but you can see where it's going. This will have a full 3D cockpit with whatever systems I am able to model using the documentation I can get.More updates in the coming days.Goran
gilbenl Posted June 9, 2009 Report Posted June 9, 2009 Looks like you're off to a great start! Keep up the good work. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask!
Goran_M Posted June 9, 2009 Author Report Posted June 9, 2009 I WILL take you up on that offer. I'll be in touch! Goran
Cameron Posted June 9, 2009 Report Posted June 9, 2009 Nice job, Goran! Keep up the good work...as has been said here, looks like you're off to a great start!Keep us updated on the progress.
Goran_M Posted June 9, 2009 Author Report Posted June 9, 2009 More Screenshots with added Misc Bodies. Now I start working fully in Blender. I made as much as I could in Planemaker so I only have to do some tweaking with what I already have in Blender. She flies beautifully and I asked the person I know to test fly it. He said it handles almost exactly like the one he owns. CG limits aren't entered so that might be why.Anyway, 3D previews coming.Goran
Goran_M Posted June 11, 2009 Author Report Posted June 11, 2009 I've decided to start the 3D modelling from scratch instead of modifying the imported obj. file. I have more freedom then and I don't have to be limited in the movements I do. Anyway, screenshot of the fuselageSlow going but it's getting there.Also, I have taken about 60 photos of the cockpit and other external parts.Goran
Goran_M Posted June 11, 2009 Author Report Posted June 11, 2009 WingBox and both engines are done (minus the fans).I got rid of the wingbox in the other screenshots because I found a better and more accurate method of representing them.No more screenshots until all parts are done. But it's looking good.Goran
JBalsa Posted June 12, 2009 Report Posted June 12, 2009 That's a great looking fuse! Keep up the work, and hope that Rafael doesn't take it. :-\Great job though! I just hope to join all of you plane designers soon!Happy landings - Jason
Goran_M Posted June 12, 2009 Author Report Posted June 12, 2009 Progress. Lots of mistakes were made and a few deletions made because I wasn't happy with the progress, but it's coming along nicely.New fuse and new wingbox. Engines are hollowed out to make room for rotating fans and landing gear has been positioned. Tail section will be redone. I did a rough one to allow for positioning of the attachment at the bottom front part of the assembly. Goran
Goran_M Posted June 12, 2009 Author Report Posted June 12, 2009 Plane shape and all parts are complete. Now I begin working on the really fine details of the aircraft starting at the nose and cockpit.Smoothing things out, etc...I'll put up a screenshot of the nose and cockpit when it's done. Goran
Daveduck Posted June 12, 2009 Report Posted June 12, 2009 Do you also plan a photo-real 2D cockpit (I hope)?If so, please, I'm beggin' ya, DON'T use a flash to take the cockpit photos. It never, ever, ever looks remotely correct in the finished model.
Goran_M Posted June 12, 2009 Author Report Posted June 12, 2009 Flash photos will not be a problem. I can photoshop the flash out or just take the photo with a soft light filter on the flash.Goran
Goran_M Posted June 13, 2009 Author Report Posted June 13, 2009 I've started skinning the aircraft. Section of the nose, cockpit windows and most of the fuselage.Goran
Reuben Posted June 14, 2009 Report Posted June 14, 2009 Looking really nice man! Keep up the good work.You'll really enjoy blender after you get used to it.
Goran_M Posted June 14, 2009 Author Report Posted June 14, 2009 Reworked the windows and roof and finished up the nose. Roof was a bit "dimply" and windows were a bit too narrow.Anyway. Back to work.GoranP.S. I noticed the front and side view pictures are slightly off. Going to fix it.
Goran_M Posted June 15, 2009 Author Report Posted June 15, 2009 Engines are DONE after 6 hours of listening to Enya and Mike Oldfield. Getting that sag in the middle and still keeping the engines looking elliptical, not to mention building the INSIDE of the nacelles was kinda interesting.Goran
gilbenl Posted June 15, 2009 Report Posted June 15, 2009 Looking like some real quality work...keep it up!
Guest xp9videos Posted June 15, 2009 Report Posted June 15, 2009 Wow. This is the 2nd best work ive seen on the forum since I registered ... today. Besides Javiers, and Rafeals, > just to find it was all plagerized. Im an Amatuer video editor. I could make you a preview video for this bird. Itd be an honor? heres some of my previous work: Please let me do this when the bird is done. I would be glad to.
Goran_M Posted June 16, 2009 Author Report Posted June 16, 2009 Thanks guys. It's slow going and at times very frustrating when some little thing gets messed up and I have to start something again, but I always say patience yields the best results.xpvideos, I'll keep your offer in mind. Goran
-TheoGregory Posted June 16, 2009 Report Posted June 16, 2009 Hey!First time posting on this thread! I would recommend making the windows as a 3d object. Where you planning on doing this?Theo
Goran_M Posted June 16, 2009 Author Report Posted June 16, 2009 The windows are a 3D object. I modelled the outer window frame first, then the inner window frame, did a few extrusions, some nudging here, resizing there, and came up with the finished window. Then built the aircraft around it.Goran
Guest xp9videos Posted June 16, 2009 Report Posted June 16, 2009 Thanks, If you need any help with the modelling Ive had about only 2 years expierience with Blender and Planemaker. I could help with little things if youd like: Landing Gear, Cabin Windows, Cabin Doors, ETC.
Guest xp9videos Posted June 16, 2009 Report Posted June 16, 2009 If you want to have a good looking window, You need patience. To have it see through like XPFW 757, and MU-2 You have to build your 3D window first then fit it to you aircraft and delete vertices, surfaces, that are covered by the window. Then Give the verts the exact outter shape of the Window. Then Make your windows transparent. You probably knew that but I just like to help
Goran_M Posted June 16, 2009 Author Report Posted June 16, 2009 Looking more like a Hawker every day. And yes, it really is 3am when I took that screenshot. TIME FOR BED!Goran
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