westcliffeco Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) Cameron said: No not enough said, procedures are in place to combat piracy..... Nobody implied anything you are being very sensitive about the reasoning ...... The only one making any assumptions is you by assuming Ben was implying your intent.... BULLSHIT! There are plenty of ways to combat piracy without needing personal info. X-Plane does it. They look for my serial number every time I download updates. You kids need to find an adult supervisor who knows a bit more about business operations, rather than just hiring hexheads. Bye for now, kiddies. Edited December 19, 2016 by westcliffeco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Russell Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 8 minutes ago, westcliffeco said: Cameron said: No not enough said, procedures are in place to combat piracy..... Nobody implied anything you are being very sensitive about the reasoning ...... The only one making any assumptions is you by assuming Ben was implying your intent.... BULLSHIT! There are plenty of ways to combat piracy without needing personal info. X-Plane does it. They look for my serial number every time I download updates. You kids need to find an adult supervisor who knows a bit more about business operations, rather than just hiring hexheads. Bye for now, kiddies. Oh fuck off you pathetic troll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcliffeco Posted December 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) Truth hurts, doesn't it? Revealing the truth does not make me a troll. You just need some adult supervision and things will work out fine. Now, go back and play in your sandbox. Edited December 19, 2016 by westcliffeco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Russell Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, westcliffeco said: Truth hurts, doesn't it? Revealing the truth does not make me a troll. You just need some adult supervision and things will work out fine. You're a paranoid drama queen kicking up a stink over your own personal entitlement issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcliffeco Posted December 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) Uh, uh. I said go back and play in your sandbox. NOW! Don't make me mad, Bennie. Edited December 19, 2016 by westcliffeco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 25 minutes ago, westcliffeco said: Cameron said What? I didn't say that. 25 minutes ago, westcliffeco said: X-Plane does it. They look for my serial number every time I download updates. And it's shared rigorously. Laminar knows it, just hasn't figured out the best way to combat it yet. 25 minutes ago, westcliffeco said: You kids need to find an adult supervisor who knows a bit more about business operations, rather than just hiring hexheads. Bye for now, kiddies. I do not understand this. From what I gather you're a rather older adult, so I'm perplexed by your behavior today. Ben gave you a pretty honest answer in the previous thread and you ran to the hills with it insinuating he was insulting you when he was far from it. That's when it got out of hand. Was it not you who just decided to open yet another thread? Look, the bottom line is we require info for customer registration. It is not only tied into our activation system, but also our transaction fraud management (yes, even if you use PayPal), and our product update system. We do not store any form of payment details on the server. I'm sorry if this does not suit your needs. It's just the way it is, and has been this way since as long as I can remember by now. There's nothing more to be said here. If you don't want to buy anything over this, completely understandable and I wish you the best of fun with X-Plane going forward! By the way...are you not aware that you already registered an account with us on December 4? This all seems really pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcliffeco Posted December 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) Thanks for keeping this open for a response, Frank. Yes, the original thread obviously deteriorated and this one followed along, as well. Ben reacted, and I reacted in kind. Then Ben overacted, and I countered with an equally childish overreaction. I understand that from Ben's (and perhaps your) myopic viewpoint as a programmer and producer of software, piracy is a major concern in this world. The problem is, and what set me off was, that it is a part of doing business in this day and age. BUT, I was no part of that and his response appeared, at least to me, to imply that. In terms of physical merchandising, it is called inventory shrinkage (shop lifting). It is a real life part of doing business. Ben's assumption, whether he or you realized it, was that because I didn't want to "register", I must be up to something, must be hiding something. That is not paranoia on my part. Ben put no qualifier on his statement, such as, "This may not apply to you, but. . .". That could have been the case. BUT. that was not, in fact, the case. Ben is the one who brought up software piracy. I simply asked how to buy without registering. Medical practices, in general, are not terribly concerned with software piracy. However, I was also president of a software development company involved in interpretation software for data collected from medical instrumentation for lung function testing (talk about a vertical market!). I knew that our software was being copied and relabeled. I also knew that the effort to completely eliminate it would be costly and protective measures would be counterproductive for our clients. We adjusted our pricing accordingly, using restrictions that were acceptable to the medical community (a very fickle user group, for sure) . When I sold out to begin another medically related business, the company was, and remains, successful and the software is used internationally, albeit with a few pirates. I admit it. Because of business lumps and bumps that I have taken, I have a short fuse with software developers who do not appear to have a full understanding of the business side of running a software development company. Crooked people do not play nice. Accept it. Move on and make your fortune. Or, find another way to make a living. But, keep in mind, there are crooks in all walks of life, even in the medical field. And, most of all, remember that most of us are not crooks. I apologies to you, Ben, and your readers for my lapse. Edited December 19, 2016 by westcliffeco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMAXX Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Shit we've been doing it wrong all this time, let's setup our inventory shrinkage program right now!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcliffeco Posted December 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 Yep, appears so. Merry Christmas to all, and I wish success to you all in the New Year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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