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Hi all, Would someone be willing to share an active invite to the discord server? Regards, acceleraptor

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https://support.x-aviation.com/knowledgebase.php?article=7

Laminar released the current stable version of X-Plane 12.4.1 today on which the current version TorqueSim Sr22 crashes with the error "Threading violation calling XPLMGetDatad". X-Plane 12.4.0 worked fine. I hope this gets fixed soon as there is no way of getting an older X-Plane version on new installations. Log.txt

Laminar released the current stable version of X-Plane 12.4.1 today on which the current version 1.8 of HotStart Challenger 650 crashes with the error "Threading violation calling XPLMGetDatad". Loading the TorqueSim SR-22 crashes with the same error. The release notes of X-Plane even state the issue. I hope this gets fixed soon as there is no way of getting an older X-Plane version on new installations.

Do you have x-plane 12.4.1 ? I have the same problem since laminar released 12.4.1 today. Yesterday it ran fine.

heres my information pertaining to it Fetching plugins for C:\X-Plane 12/Aircraft/X-Aviation/CL650/plugins 2026-03-30 16:10:25 OpenGPWS[xplane.c:194]: This is OpenGPWS (b5990a8) libacfutils-eecea76 2026-03-30 16:10:25 OpenGPWS[xplane.c:274]: OpenGPWS start succeded Loaded: C:\X-Plane 12/Aircraft/X-Aviation/CL650/plugins/OpenGPWS/win_x64/OpenGPWS.xpl (skiselkov.opengpws). 2026-03-30 16:10:25 OpenWXR[xplane.c:120]: This is OpenWXR (19c648a) libacfutils-eecea76 [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_type[0]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_coverage[0]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_base_msl_m[0]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_tops_msl_m[0]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/wind_altitude_msl_m[0]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/wind_direction_degt[0]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/wind_speed_kt[0]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/turbulence[0]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/shear_direction_degt[0]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/shear_speed_kt[0]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_type[1]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_coverage[1]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_base_msl_m[1]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_tops_msl_m[1]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/wind_altitude_msl_m[1]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/wind_direction_degt[1]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/wind_speed_kt[1]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/turbulence[1]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/shear_direction_degt[1]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/shear_speed_kt[1]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_type[2]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_coverage[2]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_base_msl_m[2]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_tops_msl_m[2]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/wind_altitude_msl_m[2]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/wind_direction_degt[2]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/wind_speed_kt[2]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/turbulence[2]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/shear_direction_degt[2]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/shear_speed_kt[2]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/temperature_sealevel_c' has been replaced. Please use the new name. Loaded: C:\X-Plane 12/Aircraft/X-Aviation/CL650/plugins/OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl (skiselkov.openwxr). 2026-03-30 16:10:25 xtcas[xplane.c:759]: This is X-TCAS version fb27e83 (confopts: VSI:0 STYLE:1 GTS820:0) Loaded: C:\X-Plane 12/Aircraft/X-Aviation/CL650/plugins/X-TCAS/win_x64/X-TCAS.xpl (skiselkov.xtcas). 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:1882]: This is the CL650 (v1.8) libacfutils-eecea76 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:1905]: BOOT: glew_init 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:1919]: BOOT: glutils_sys_init 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:1923]: BOOT: mtcr_glob_init 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:1925]: BOOT: mt_cairo_uploader_init 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:1928]: BOOT: imgui_init 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:1930]: BOOT: libcursor_init 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:1935]: BOOT: cl_square_sys_init 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:1938]: BOOT: xpver_checker 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:1947]: BOOT: airportdb_init 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:1961]: BOOT: win_keeper_init 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:1963]: BOOT: afm_mgr_init 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:1972]: Systems plugin load complete Loaded: C:\X-Plane 12/Aircraft/X-Aviation/CL650/plugins/systems/win_x64/systems.xpl (hotstart.challenger650). Loaded: C:\X-Plane 12/Aircraft/X-Aviation/CL650/plugins/xlua/64/win.xpl (com.x-plane.xlua.1.0.0r1). 2026-03-30 16:10:27 OpenGPWS[xplane.c:288]: OpenGPWS enabling 2026-03-30 16:10:27 OpenGPWS[xplane.c:332]: OpenGPWS successful 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:2850]: Systems plugin is enabling 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:2854]: BOOT: user_config_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2866]: BOOT: libdrawcb_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2868]: BOOT: mousesniffer_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2870]: BOOT: util_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2873]: BOOT: phys_init [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/weather/use_real_weather_bool' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/weather/download_real_weather' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_type[0]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_base_msl_m[0]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_tops_msl_m[0]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_type[1]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_base_msl_m[1]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_tops_msl_m[1]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_type[2]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_base_msl_m[2]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_tops_msl_m[2]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2876]: BOOT: tooltip_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2879]: BOOT: netlink_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2883]: BOOT: libswitch_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2891]: BOOT: xplane_fdr_find 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2909]: BOOT: navaiddb_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2913]: BOOT: navrad_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2920]: BOOT: fontmgr_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2923]: BOOT: pnlren_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[libpnlren.c:2290]: libpnlren: utilizing background rendering via share lists 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2927]: BOOT: abus_alloc 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2942]: BOOT: cl650_labels_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2952]: BOOT: libfail_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2973]: BOOT: gear_anim_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2976]: BOOT: gear_tricks_init [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/aircraft/parts/acf_gear_tirrad' has been replaced. Please use the new name. 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2979]: BOOT: drag_tricks_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2981]: BOOT: flap_tricks_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2984]: BOOT: notif_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2988]: BOOT: hyd_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2992]: BOOT: elec_init [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/weather/runway_friction' has been replaced. Please use the new name. 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2996]: BOOT: doors_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2998]: BOOT: fuel_tanks_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:3001]: BOOT: sensors_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:3003]: BOOT: hstcu_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:3005]: BOOT: ail_rud_trim_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:3007]: BOOT: yd_ctl_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:3010]: BOOT: fscu_init 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[xplane.c:3013]: BOOT: engine_init [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/flightmodel/engine/ENGN_EGT' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/flightmodel/engine/ENGN_ITT' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/flightmodel/engine/ENGN_EGT_c' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/flightmodel/engine/ENGN_ITT_c' has been replaced. Please use the new name. 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[ats_msd.c:118]: Reloading shader prog 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[engine_blur.c:182]: Reloading fan blur shader 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[xplane.c:3016]: BOOT: brakes_init [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/cockpit2/controls/parking_brake_ratio' has been replaced. Please use the new name. 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[xplane.c:3018]: BOOT: apu_init 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[xplane.c:3021]: BOOT: fctl_deice_init 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[xplane.c:3023]: BOOT: ecs_init 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[xplane.c:3027]: BOOT: fail_fms_intf_init 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[xplane.c:3029]: BOOT: input_bridge_abus_init 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[xplane.c:3032]: BOOT: fdr_init 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[xplane.c:3036]: BOOT: cvr_init 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[xplane.c:3038]: BOOT: hlis_init 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[xplane.c:3040]: BOOT: pl21_init 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: SR261902(0, CHRONO.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: LASEREF6(0, IRS_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: LASEREF6(1, IRS_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: LASEREF6(2, IRS_3.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: GPS4000S(0, GPS_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: GPS4000S(1, GPS_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: VHF4000(0, VHF_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: VHF4000(1, VHF_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: VHF4000(2, VHF_3.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: HF9031A(0, HF_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: HF9031A(1, HF_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: HF9041(0, COUPLER_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: HF9041(1, COUPLER_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: NAV4000(0, NAV_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: NAV4000(1, NAV_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: DME4000(0, DME_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: DME4000(1, DME_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: ALT4000(0, RALT_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: ALT4000(1, RALT_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: TSS4100(0, TCAS_XPDR_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: TDR94D(0, XPDR_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: REU(0, REU_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: REU(1, REU_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: SELCAL(0, SELCAL.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: ADC850E(0, ADC_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: ADC850E(1, ADC_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: AFD5220E(0, PFD_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: AFD5220E(1, PFD_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: AFD5220E(2, MFD_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: AFD5220E(3, MFD_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: DCP5060(0, DCP_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: DCP5060(1, DCP_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: CCP5060(0, CCP_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: CCP5060(1, CCP_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: CDU6200(0, CDU_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: CDU6200(1, CDU_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: CDU6200(2, CDU_3.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: SVC3000(0, SVC.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[libsvs.c:4911]: libsvs(SVC): utilizing background rendering via wglCopyImageSubDataNV Threading violation calling XPLMGetDatai (C:\Users\Administrator\builds\eiafPmXpN\0\x-plane\design\SDK\COMMON\xplanesdk\Src\XPLM\XPLMDataAccess.cpp:327) Violation by Challenger 650 by Hot Start (hotstart.challenger650)

Fetching plugins for C:\X-Plane 12/Aircraft/X-Aviation/CL650/plugins 2026-03-30 16:10:25 OpenGPWS[xplane.c:194]: This is OpenGPWS (b5990a8) libacfutils-eecea76 2026-03-30 16:10:25 OpenGPWS[xplane.c:274]: OpenGPWS start succeded Loaded: C:\X-Plane 12/Aircraft/X-Aviation/CL650/plugins/OpenGPWS/win_x64/OpenGPWS.xpl (skiselkov.opengpws). 2026-03-30 16:10:25 OpenWXR[xplane.c:120]: This is OpenWXR (19c648a) libacfutils-eecea76 [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_type[0]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_coverage[0]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_base_msl_m[0]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_tops_msl_m[0]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/wind_altitude_msl_m[0]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/wind_direction_degt[0]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/wind_speed_kt[0]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/turbulence[0]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/shear_direction_degt[0]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/shear_speed_kt[0]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_type[1]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_coverage[1]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_base_msl_m[1]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_tops_msl_m[1]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/wind_altitude_msl_m[1]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/wind_direction_degt[1]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/wind_speed_kt[1]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/turbulence[1]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/shear_direction_degt[1]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/shear_speed_kt[1]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_type[2]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_coverage[2]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_base_msl_m[2]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_tops_msl_m[2]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/wind_altitude_msl_m[2]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/wind_direction_degt[2]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/wind_speed_kt[2]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/turbulence[2]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/shear_direction_degt[2]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/shear_speed_kt[2]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl]: Dataref 'sim/weather/temperature_sealevel_c' has been replaced. Please use the new name. Loaded: C:\X-Plane 12/Aircraft/X-Aviation/CL650/plugins/OpenWXR/win_x64/OpenWXR.xpl (skiselkov.openwxr). 2026-03-30 16:10:25 xtcas[xplane.c:759]: This is X-TCAS version fb27e83 (confopts: VSI:0 STYLE:1 GTS820:0) Loaded: C:\X-Plane 12/Aircraft/X-Aviation/CL650/plugins/X-TCAS/win_x64/X-TCAS.xpl (skiselkov.xtcas). 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:1882]: This is the CL650 (v1.8) libacfutils-eecea76 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:1905]: BOOT: glew_init 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:1919]: BOOT: glutils_sys_init 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:1923]: BOOT: mtcr_glob_init 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:1925]: BOOT: mt_cairo_uploader_init 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:1928]: BOOT: imgui_init 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:1930]: BOOT: libcursor_init 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:1935]: BOOT: cl_square_sys_init 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:1938]: BOOT: xpver_checker 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:1947]: BOOT: airportdb_init 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:1961]: BOOT: win_keeper_init 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:1963]: BOOT: afm_mgr_init 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:1972]: Systems plugin load complete Loaded: C:\X-Plane 12/Aircraft/X-Aviation/CL650/plugins/systems/win_x64/systems.xpl (hotstart.challenger650). Loaded: C:\X-Plane 12/Aircraft/X-Aviation/CL650/plugins/xlua/64/win.xpl (com.x-plane.xlua.1.0.0r1). 2026-03-30 16:10:27 OpenGPWS[xplane.c:288]: OpenGPWS enabling 2026-03-30 16:10:27 OpenGPWS[xplane.c:332]: OpenGPWS successful 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:2850]: Systems plugin is enabling 2026-03-30 16:10:27 CL650[xplane.c:2854]: BOOT: user_config_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2866]: BOOT: libdrawcb_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2868]: BOOT: mousesniffer_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2870]: BOOT: util_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2873]: BOOT: phys_init [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/weather/use_real_weather_bool' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/weather/download_real_weather' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_type[0]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_base_msl_m[0]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_tops_msl_m[0]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_type[1]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_base_msl_m[1]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_tops_msl_m[1]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_type[2]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_base_msl_m[2]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/weather/cloud_tops_msl_m[2]' has been replaced. Please use the new name. 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2876]: BOOT: tooltip_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2879]: BOOT: netlink_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2883]: BOOT: libswitch_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2891]: BOOT: xplane_fdr_find 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2909]: BOOT: navaiddb_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2913]: BOOT: navrad_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2920]: BOOT: fontmgr_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2923]: BOOT: pnlren_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[libpnlren.c:2290]: libpnlren: utilizing background rendering via share lists 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2927]: BOOT: abus_alloc 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2942]: BOOT: cl650_labels_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2952]: BOOT: libfail_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2973]: BOOT: gear_anim_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2976]: BOOT: gear_tricks_init [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/aircraft/parts/acf_gear_tirrad' has been replaced. Please use the new name. 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2979]: BOOT: drag_tricks_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2981]: BOOT: flap_tricks_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2984]: BOOT: notif_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2988]: BOOT: hyd_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2992]: BOOT: elec_init [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/weather/runway_friction' has been replaced. Please use the new name. 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2996]: BOOT: doors_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:2998]: BOOT: fuel_tanks_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:3001]: BOOT: sensors_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:3003]: BOOT: hstcu_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:3005]: BOOT: ail_rud_trim_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:3007]: BOOT: yd_ctl_init 2026-03-30 16:10:28 CL650[xplane.c:3010]: BOOT: fscu_init 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[xplane.c:3013]: BOOT: engine_init [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/flightmodel/engine/ENGN_EGT' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/flightmodel/engine/ENGN_ITT' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/flightmodel/engine/ENGN_EGT_c' has been replaced. Please use the new name. [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/flightmodel/engine/ENGN_ITT_c' has been replaced. Please use the new name. 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[ats_msd.c:118]: Reloading shader prog 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[engine_blur.c:182]: Reloading fan blur shader 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[xplane.c:3016]: BOOT: brakes_init [Challenger 650 by Hot Start]: Dataref 'sim/cockpit2/controls/parking_brake_ratio' has been replaced. Please use the new name. 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[xplane.c:3018]: BOOT: apu_init 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[xplane.c:3021]: BOOT: fctl_deice_init 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[xplane.c:3023]: BOOT: ecs_init 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[xplane.c:3027]: BOOT: fail_fms_intf_init 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[xplane.c:3029]: BOOT: input_bridge_abus_init 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[xplane.c:3032]: BOOT: fdr_init 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[xplane.c:3036]: BOOT: cvr_init 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[xplane.c:3038]: BOOT: hlis_init 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[xplane.c:3040]: BOOT: pl21_init 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: SR261902(0, CHRONO.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: LASEREF6(0, IRS_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: LASEREF6(1, IRS_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: LASEREF6(2, IRS_3.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: GPS4000S(0, GPS_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: GPS4000S(1, GPS_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: VHF4000(0, VHF_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: VHF4000(1, VHF_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:29 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: VHF4000(2, VHF_3.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: HF9031A(0, HF_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: HF9031A(1, HF_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: HF9041(0, COUPLER_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: HF9041(1, COUPLER_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: NAV4000(0, NAV_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: NAV4000(1, NAV_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: DME4000(0, DME_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: DME4000(1, DME_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: ALT4000(0, RALT_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: ALT4000(1, RALT_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: TSS4100(0, TCAS_XPDR_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: TDR94D(0, XPDR_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: REU(0, REU_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: REU(1, REU_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: SELCAL(0, SELCAL.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: ADC850E(0, ADC_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: ADC850E(1, ADC_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: AFD5220E(0, PFD_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: AFD5220E(1, PFD_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: AFD5220E(2, MFD_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: AFD5220E(3, MFD_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: DCP5060(0, DCP_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: DCP5060(1, DCP_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: CCP5060(0, CCP_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: CCP5060(1, CCP_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: CDU6200(0, CDU_1.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: CDU6200(1, CDU_2.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: CDU6200(2, CDU_3.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[pl21.c:210]: BOOT: SVC3000(0, SVC.conf) 2026-03-30 16:10:30 CL650[libsvs.c:4911]: libsvs(SVC): utilizing background rendering via wglCopyImageSubDataNV Threading violation calling XPLMGetDatai (C:\Users\Administrator\builds\eiafPmXpN\0\x-plane\design\SDK\COMMON\xplanesdk\Src\XPLM\XPLMDataAccess.cpp:327) Violation by Challenger 650 by Hot Start (hotstart.challenger650)

Wow, I must say Cameron was right. I switched back to XP version 12.4.0 and all my SR22s are working like a dream. Thanks.

Hi - I'm curious, is that comment based on anything in particular? Or is it an assumption?

It's being worked on.

Same and I believe it's an Aircraft issues given the below: ThreadingViolation calling XPLMGetDatad (...XPLMDataAccess.cpp:401) Violation by Cirrus SR22TN by TorqueSim and RealSimGear (torquesim.sr22.gp.retail) Log.txt

I wish the developers would also work on the MAC OS version so that it no longer needs X-Plane to run in Rosetta. The latest versions of XP12 are optimised to get the best out of our MACs and lose fps when used in Rosetta. I've contacted X-Aviation's support a few times as it only needs to be run in Rosetta due to the Gizmo64.plugin but I get no response to my ticket which is poor support for a very expensive product.... not moaning about the price as worth every penny, but a pain downgrading XP12 to Rosetta just to fly this plane, which I rarely do now.

Sound is getting updated to fmod. Current problem is known for some not all. Fewer people working on it so will take time.

Couldn't find much information online about audio issues with either the Motherboard or CPU, Updated my audio drivers but alas, no luck. I will update my BIOS some time over the weekend and see if that was an issue. After that im not sure what to do. The plane is great in all other ways - but this audio issue is really hampering it, I will let you know when I have more info, but I am not really sure what to do next.

Well, it seems you are completely right with it being a thing on my end. Tried it on my macbook, and my spouse's windows laptop - both of which are working fine. Id be curious to know what OP's computer specs were as it might be an issue with a specific hardware (for me an I5-12600kf and an msi b760m mobo) those two would be the culprits of a hardware audio problem, now time to see if these have any known issues with openAL.

You are most definitely right, and real life is always more important. Id be curious to find out what I have done wrong, and I will most definitely be trying it on another device, to see if something is off on my end. I do hope to solve this issue and wish you the best. Once again thank you for the information, and I wish you luck with with whatever is going on, best regards

Yes I have the same problem, I get a CTD even before Xplane loads the aircraft

Hi guys sorry for my late reply. is working with the option number 2!!!!! i hope in the future an update can be change this. Well, is not a bad idea, but if i have different brakes i would like to use it. thank you guys

No problem with noses sticking out anywhere . But you are right, the FMOD transition is not progressing right now due to other things in life taking precedence and the current sound application works fine for the vast majority of users - to the point of where I am going to say that if it does not, something is not set up correctly in your hardware/operating system.

I have it partially fixed with the ftsim soundpack, most of the alerts are still sped up as well as a lot of other things, however there is no more static and some sounds are back to normal, Would really love an update on the FMOD sound system, but I understand you are hard at work, and probably don't love people like me sticking our noses where they do not belong.

Having this same issue as well, doesn't seem like any solutions were made, Ill try the FTSIM sound pack as that seemed to be a fix for someone and they have a free demo version

If I may ask, have you been able to replicate this problem/solve it Mr., Litjan?

Just reinstalled OpenAL and no change

Just bought it today and Im having the same problem