Thanks Perry and others, it's like a death in the family eh! Not really... Good to iron things out before the real deal- imagine my disappointment on release! A good test then. My pc is not bad, almost 2yrs old and seems ok for xplane @ mostly max settings and A-10c @ close to max. My first gen i7 is not as quick as Ola's new brand i5, good to see progress finally. GPUs seem to have leveled out though - my gtx 275 was 100 times faster than the one I replaced from 5 yrs earlier. Now, the newer cards are only twice it's speed, so I can wait longer still. The GTX590 looks amazing, quadruple my speed, so when it's $250 or so I'll jump at it. Just superb power available nowadays for half the price of a console.