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You'll need to download the XP9 demo from x-plane.com and open the ACF in PlaneMaker. Once you save it there, it will also open in XP10. How well it will fly is another matter since so much has changed since XP8.

Opening the ACF in PlaneMaker 10 and saving it there might work.

There hasn't been an Electra since XP8, I think, so it's good to hear that there's one in development. Best of luck with the project.

You might think you're "helping a friend" but you're also disrespecting the rights of developers who put time and hard work into sharing something with the community for free on their own terms.

If the terms of distribution allow for 3rd party sharing, then redistribution by PM is fair enough, however if it is expressly forbidden, it may not be shared under any circumstances. If there is no distribution notice, it is assumed the the latter case applies, that the work remains the copyright of the artist(s) and that it may not be redistributed. Just knowing who did it makes no difference and permission must still be sought from the original artists. This is the cornerstone of copyright law in most territories. The readme with the A346, for example, contains the clause: "The plane is freeware and must remain so. The plane can not be used for any payware purposes or be re-distributed in any manner to any other person without permission. No part of this plane can be used in any other package without permission from the respective authors. " That's pretty clear-cut.

The 737-500 appears to have been an FSX 3D model grafted on to the XPFW 737-300.

It's been deleted, along with a 737-500 posted by the same member.

Unfortunately not. Some aspects of the 3D model might be reusable, but frankly a developer would be much better starting from scratch.

Truly stunning work. Quite simply some of the best 3D modelling I've ever seen, and not just in the X-Plane world. And all of that on an aircraft in which I've always had an interest.

That's the thing: 70% of the work I do in Photoshop (CS6) is work I could do in CS3!

http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=71722&p=775144 (Post no. 8)

Intriguing discussion that has veered somewhat off topic. I don't have a clear opinion (yet) on the pay-per-livery principle though it's hard on the customer if he or she has to spend (say) $10 for a pack that includes a single desired livery... The payware landscape is still developing in X-Plane: it's not really that long ago that the idea of payware scenery for a single airport might have been scoffed at. Now the standard is extremely high. The bottom line is that if customers are willing to pay for liveries, then developers are going to work the market as best they can. Leen's remark that the package should include a reasonable number of default liveries is one with which I would agree wholeheartedly.

Very nice indeed. It was a livery I always liked a lot, though I could never make up my mind whether I liked the older Eurostile titles or the Helvetica Bold Italic you have used. It looks very smart, though I'm not sure that the graphics on the engine nacelles work. Your window frame and rivet details are beautifully done.

Right now, Felis's Yak-40 and FJS's 727-100. I'm a big fan of old-school airliners. It might change next week: I really like the XPFR Stampe, for instance.

Ramzzess had an Il-96 for sale on the .org store but it seems to be no longer available. To my knowledge there hasn't been a B734 since X-plane 6 or 7.

There's no shortage of very modern airliners available or in development for X-Plane and while hardly "old", the addition of a "classic" 737 is welcome for that reason alone. Even more poorly represented are earlier airliners like the 707 family: the recent appearance of FJS's 727 is hugely welcome in that respect and I'll welcome Guy's Comet with open arms. My dream aircraft would be a VC10. I'm sure a MAX will be developed at some stage although there's not much point until the real aircraft finishes its test programme and there's data available on real world performance and handling. Not as a payware project anyway. In varietate voluptas.

I'm always amazed at the patience of developers, not just the SAAB team, but throughout the community. I don't think I would have anything like the resilience required to stick with something for several years and having to deal with all the frustration and obstacles that must be overcome to drive the project towards the line as well as constant questions about progress, delivery dates, requests for screenshots, videos, etc, etc. I don't know whether the SAAB team's primary source of income will be from sales, or whether they have other work that has to be kept going too, but fair play to you all. Shoutbox? THAT should be suspended. It's just asking for trouble.

This development doesn't look large enough for anything other than an expansion of services to China, Russia and possibly South Korea. The most interesting thing about the development is that it is being designed by a prominent Hong Kong-based architectural firm in a deal which included upgrading the main airport at Pyongyang Sunan. In the end, who knows.

Why not, indeed? There seems to be a lot of "insider info" floating around.

The online specs are only the broadest of data and I wouldn't have thought they are enough to go on. Much of the performance envelope will only be determined by the flight test programme in any case. Only the most basic of 3-view drawings and cutaways, and very few photos are available to work from, not enough to build an accurate 3D model, I would have thought. My advice would be to plough away on one of your freeware products first: you will have far more data to work from and you will learn much more than trying to tackle an aircraft which has yet to fly. Most of the top developers for X-Plane had a track record as publishers of excellent freeware models prior to embarking on payware. I should also say that I have been involved with beta testing of several projects and that the test programme runs into hundreds or even thousands of hours of flight testing to match the real world performance and handling. And this is with hundreds of pages of data available. People's expectations of payware aircraft are extraordinarily high nowadays, so do not underestimate the months of work of work ahead. over a year, maybe. In the meantime, the best of luck.

Plenty of progress then, especially after the hiatus. Well done. From you list I assume all the flight testing of performance, handling, etc has been completed, or is this also ongoing?

Indeed. I've done some work on real life FCOMs, POH documents and OPS-C documents and I don't think a sim user needs to know about carrying livestock and such like!

A Thomson 787 turned back while en route from Manchester to Orlando earlier. Technical issues, no specifics...

They're choosing from just two families: the 737-700/800/900ER and the A320/321/319, replacing a variety of types from the 737, 757 and 767-200 to the MD80. It actually simplifies the fleet a great deal and the 737 family alone couldn't cover all their requirements.

Not really: AA have had orders for new Airbuses for a few years now.