hi all... flying a heli is just a thing of patience... Don't forget that with a joystick, and I struggled alot too at my beginnings here, it gives far more input as needed because of its shortness.... a heli stick is much longer, so very small input on those are already enough... on the short computer stick it becomes very hard to get those very little, MUCH more little input (and I guess yes, a high qual joy makes it easier as they are much more precise and won't crackle around) So don't give it up... I'd recomment, for the first heli, to get the Mi2, or the MD902. They are quite stable (compared to the R22, Bell or AS350...!!!), which doesn't mean you won't need an everytime joy-input to get it stable... on the joystick options under x-plane, put all 6 bars (3 left, 3 right), at their maximum right side, and it will smoothen your first normal brutal inputs. Forget about planes, it's all about feeling. Of course the Track-IR makes it 'easier' to get what's going on, but it's doable without. So, remember, bigger helicopters will be easier due to their inertia to start with and less frustrting (didn't said you won't crash it a few times ;-) ). Now if you insist on the R22 as a starter, once mastered, the others will alllll be easy... but, its learning curve will be much, much steaper... In the heli, you change only ONE parameter (stick, rudder, throttle, collective,...) , only one, and all others need to be changed too to counter the first input... just a thing of habbit. I read somewhere that in real live, a clean hovering in an R22 is achieved after generally at least 16 hours of training... why should you get it done in 5 minutes?! good luck and most important: Have Fun ;-) with mouse and keyboard....? forget that... (my opinion) EDIT: Oh I forgot to mention: it MIGHT look clean on the video, but I assure you that I'm still unable, in one attempt, to come down from altitude on a very specific given spot... I miss it always and have to turn around. Autoration? Depends on which heli, and not 100% garanty I make it in one piece :-)