North Korea to open its Doors?

[Nicola_M]

I agree with all of what's been posted. Jim basically told it how it is.  Things will never change in NK until the "leadership" there is erased/killed off/exiled/removed from power.  Only then will NK's population be able to see how it actually is outside their country, and see the crap that's been going on inside their own.

 

I wouldn't want to live there - or even visit - as I would have a hard time looking people in the eye and knowing they struggle for food from one day to the next while their Great Leader stuffs himself silly with every luxury.  Yes, sights may be worth looking at, but it's the people that make the experience too.

[Nicola_M]

 

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And the being educated by propaganda since birth part, well. It applies to everybody alive on this planet and that is the point I was trying to make. You, my friend, as well as me, have been lied to, kept from the truth and manipulated in so many ways that is terrifying to even try to make sense of. But more scary is the thought of perpetrating the lies and allowing the sick psychopaths behind the NWO achieve their goals.

Yes, we in the NWO are fed BS and all the rest of it.  The difference is, we have the internet and collective intelligence to question when we think we can smell sh*t, as you have so eloquently described.

The NK's can't, because they're stuck behind a wall of silence. 

[scubajuan_new]

Only then will NK's population be able to see how it actually is outside their country, and see the crap that's been going on inside their own.

 

Or we can also start by looking at the crap under our own rugs and accept responsibly our part in all the global problems that exist today, like word hunger and environmental depredation for instance.

Edited August 15, 2013 by scubajuan_new

[Nicola_M]

Sorry, I don't buy that.  We throw food aid at third world countries left, right and centre, when our jobs are given to immigrants instead of our own, our hospitals are at crisis point, and huge swathes of our population have to choose whether to heat their homes or eat, while economic parasites just walk in and get handed benefits the rest of us can't get. 

It is not our fault if aid is appropriated by local warlords for themselves.  What would you suggest, we invade everyone and depose those who steal the food and aid?  Didn't work in Afghanistan, hasn't worked in Iraq, and sure as hell hasn't worked in Libya.

 

It's a sore point, considering on Monday it was announced that UK-donated aid of half a billion £ was destroyed by Al Qaeda in Somalia. So my hard-earned taxes being thrown there is an open wound.

 

Third World countries could very easily feed themselves.  If you have water, soil and sunlight you can grow crops.  But no, rather than work on the land and irrigate crop fields, they'd rather spend their time making babies they can't feed.

Or murdering each other.

Edited August 15, 2013 by Nicola_M

[scubajuan_new]

I am not defending totalitarian governments, or any other form of government for that matter (which they all seem to be heading that way anyway, except maybe Island), But I don´t condemn the attempts to resist the dominance of the elite by whatever means they consider necessary and protect from a hostile take over either.

[Nicola_M]

re read, I adjusted my post above while you were typing.

[Nicola_M]

At the end of the day, the North Koreans somehow need to wake up and smell the coffee and depose their beloved Fatboy-with-the-stupid-hair.  Unfortunately, they are so brainwashed by he and his ilk, that the chances of said dream happening are next to zero.

[Andyrooc]

It's going to take a Gorbachev*10 to crack that egg.

[eaglewing7]

As much as historians, and scholars, like to applaud Gorbachev's reforms of Socialist Russia, the changes implemented by the technocratic government of the day, were only possible due to policies like Perestroika and Glasnost.

 

Of course, when reforms were made to the ex-communist/socialist system, the people took the proverbial mile, when given the inch as it were...

 

While it will certainly take a single person to sow the seeds of change in North Korean society, it will take a broader move towards reform to make any real changes happen.

 

But, on another topic, I find it interesting how some Americans, who are normally quite unassuming, become absolutely venomous when there is any mention of Communism or Socialism.  While I certainly know a thing or two about the Cold War atmosphere, and how deeply the fear of all things "RED" was instilled in the US psyche, I still find it shocking that they cannot see the positives in a political and governmental system where at its most fundamental level, equality is the goal.  God forbid if that ever came to fruition...

[Orcair]

As much as historians, and scholars, like to applaud Gorbachev's reforms of Socialist Russia, the changes implemented by the technocratic government of the day, were only possible due to policies like Perestroika and Glasnost.

 

Of course, when reforms were made to the ex-communist/socialist system, the people took the proverbial mile, when given the inch as it were...

 

While it will certainly take a single person to sow the seeds of change in North Korean society, it will take a broader move towards reform to make any real changes happen.

 

But, on another topic, I find it interesting how some Americans, who are normally quite unassuming, become absolutely venomous when there is any mention of Communism or Socialism.  While I certainly know a thing or two about the Cold War atmosphere, and how deeply the fear of all things "RED" was instilled in the US psyche, I still find it shocking that they cannot see the positives in a political and governmental system where at its most fundamental level, equality is the goal.  God forbid if that ever came to fruition...

Try mentioning higher taxes to most Americans for health care. Most of them do not want to have to "support" those that are too "lazy" to work and "freeload".

[Andyrooc]

Or gun control...

[Nicola_M]

The irony is that for anything to happen realistically, some North Koreans need to see how it is on this side of the fence. Only then will they be angry that they haven't got/can't have what we've got, and then they'll turn on Fatboy.

The trouble is, his regime makes it impossible for any NK's to get a glimpse of what's on this side of the fence - no internet, no outside travel etc.

 

At least the East Germans could SEE what it was like in the West.  The NK's can't.