Doelittle63 Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) Hi everyone After an absence to XPlane for a while, I wanted to take the SR22 in XPlane 12 into the skies again today. The plane loads into the airport fine. After ±15sec xplane crashes to desktop Have not managed to make a flight after a dozen attempts -:( Version 2.0.1 in steam version of XPlane12 (12.05, Vulkan) This is what I have tried so far: -Enabled/disable zink. -All xplane 12setting sliders to the left -Tried different sub versions of the aircraft -No failures in ac menu -Tried to start up with engines running. At this point pretty desperate, as I have no clue where to look, where this comes from. I did notice that both MFD light up for 1 sec and then go blank. A few seconds later XPlane crashes to desktop. This is also the case when starting the plane at a Rwy Highly appreciate any help to get the plane into the skies in XPlane12 Thanks in advance John Btw: -Reinstalled the plane into XPlane11 (Steam version). V1.2 works fine. No CTD there -Found some config files specific for this plane. They specificly state NOT to edit, so I just post them here. For troubleshooting purpose? Log.txt NA_AV_State.txt TN_AV_State.txt Edited June 24, 2023 by Doelittle63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pils Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 Try without any third party plugins except Gizmo, e.g. remove SAM, NavigraphSimlink, ActiveSky, Traffic Global, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doelittle63 Posted June 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) Thnx for response. I manually removed the following folders and 1 file out of the \resources\plugins folder: -ASXPConnect12 -AviTab -SAM -Traffic Global -NavigraphSimlink_64.xpl Hope it is okay to not use their respective uninstallers. The only 2 plugins that are in place are Gizmo64 and Show Plugin admin Unfortunately the sim still crashes within 15sec after the plane is loaded. For the moment I am only loading the plane at 1 spot , this is KSEA, holding point Rwy16L. I tried different liveries. Upon the first loading of the Hili_Stars liverie, it took a while (± 5 min)before the sim crashed. I could pan around, go to spot view, back into the cockpit. Consecutive loading of this liverie and others the sim again crashes within 15sec. There are no problems with other AC. I am gonna put the plugins back in place and further investigate. Other tips/help highly appreciated thnx Edited June 24, 2023 by Doelittle63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pils Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Doelittle63 said: I am gonna put the plugins back in place and further investigate. Can you provide the new log before doing so? Thanks. That may help the developers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pils Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Doelittle63 said: For the moment I am only loading the plane at 1 spot , this is KSEA, holding point Rwy16L. Maybe try another location? SCIP? PMDY? Etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doelittle63 Posted June 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 Hi Pils, wilco. I installed the plane again in xplane 11 as I wanted to take her up in the skies. Meanwhile it is late here in Belgium and it is time to call it a night. I will reinstall into XPlane 12 and remove the plugins tomorrow, providing new logs here Tnx for the follow up John 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doelittle63 Posted June 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 (edited) Goodmorning, as promised , here it comes. 1-redownloaded the installer from my X-Aviation account. 2-Pointed the installer to the XPlane 12 main folder. It did not remove V1.2 from XPlane 11 3-Installation okay 4-Removed manually above plug-ins, leaving in place Gizmo64 & Show Plugin Admin 5-Fired up XPlane12, entered licence data. Licence okay 6-Boem - Xplane 12 CTD I have restarted the sim, using different startup locations/scenarios as asked and replaced the log.txt filename with a more descriptive one. Really hope this helps solve the issue. Tnx again for looking into this John Log(@EBOS-Apron-All above plugins in place-Rollon's SF260M-NO Crash).txt Log(@EBOS-Apron-Laminar's SR22-NO crash).txt Log(@EBOS-Apron-Realsimgear livery).txt Log(@EGLL-Parking spot).txt Log(@KSEA-Holding point Rwy16L).txt Log(@PMDY-Parking spot) .txt Log(@SCIP-Engines not running).txt Log(@SCIP-parking).txt Log(XPlane 11.55 Vulkan-SR22 Avidyne V1.2.0@EGLL Apron parking spot-NO crash).txt Edited June 25, 2023 by Doelittle63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 Try setting disable_mtuploader to 1 in the file settings.cfg (G:\SteamLibrary/steamapps/common/X-Plane 12/Aircraft/X-Aviation/SR22 Series Entegra/TorqueSim SR22 Entegra/plugins/sr_systavi\settings\settings.cfg) and seeing if that helps. AMD graphics card drivers are notorious for behaving terribly with X-Plane in terms of compatibility, this has helped in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doelittle63 Posted June 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) Hi Coop, thank you for the tip. I have just done your advice, using Notepad ++ for editing the file. Unfortunately the sim crashes within 10 sec after the plane is loaded. Both MFD power up but XPlane 12 crashes during this process. I have attached the log file Not a dev here, nor a tweaker. I have no clue what is going on, but really would like to take the plane up into XPlane 12 skies Thank you for looking into this John Log.txt Edited June 27, 2023 by Doelittle63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doelittle63 Posted June 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) I have just done a new run of your installer. The program detected the existing SR22 installation into XPlane12, and adviced to first uninstall. After confirming the uninstalling, it went ahead and reinstalled your plane. Some observations: -The installer does not remove all folders during uninstallation. Is this normal? -As long as the plane is not activated, the sim does not crash. -After activation, it again takes 10 sec for the sim to crash Is there a way to make sure that the plane is loaded in cold and dark state. Even after disabling 'running engines' options in the start menu, I notice that some switches are on. Or does the CTD occur while the plane is going to Cold and dark state? John PS: I have loaded some default planes with 'start engines running' disabled. These planes load into the sim in cold and dark state. No transitioning to this state. So at this point I am wondering why this is not the case with the SR22 Edited June 27, 2023 by Doelittle63 Post Scriptum added Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 Can you check your X-Plane 12/Output/crash_reports/completed and see if there is a "b1659ce4-e2ef-4ca7-bd82-8d6fafea7730.dmp" (to match the above log.txt's error reporting UUID) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doelittle63 Posted June 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 The file is there, not tech sawy here. I loaded the file into notepad++, but ... that is probably not the way to check/do it. I 'll upload it. Tnks b1659ce4-e2ef-4ca7-bd82-8d6fafea7730.dmp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 Thanks for the dump file. From analyzing it, it appears that OpenGPWS is crashing, which is responsible for MFD terrain parsing, though the reason isn't clear. I'm thinking what might be happening is that something on your machine is preventing OpenGPWS from grabbing the terrain tiles to load in, perhaps an overaggressive antivirus software or file permissions. This isn't something we've seen with others and I can't replicate it myself though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doelittle63 Posted June 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 Well, I am using Microsoft's Defender, no third party anti-virus software. I disabled realtime scanning, and gave it another try. Still CTD upon loading ac into sim. I am running out of ideas here. Maybe one consideration. The whole steamlibrary is put on a NAS that is bound to the PC through iSCSI (2,5Gb network). Do not know whether this is relevant. Timing issues? Glad however that I can take up your plane into the XPlane 11 skies . I certainly enjoy it there Anyways, a BIG thank you for looking into this John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 14 hours ago, Doelittle63 said: Well, I am using Microsoft's Defender, no third party anti-virus software. I disabled realtime scanning, and gave it another try. Still CTD upon loading ac into sim. I am running out of ideas here. Maybe one consideration. The whole steamlibrary is put on a NAS that is bound to the PC through iSCSI (2,5Gb network). Do not know whether this is relevant. Timing issues? Glad however that I can take up your plane into the XPlane 11 skies . I certainly enjoy it there Anyways, a BIG thank you for looking into this John That is a potential culprit, that isn't something we have ever tested for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyingjorts Posted November 5, 2023 Report Share Posted November 5, 2023 What kind of GPU do you have? I had a similar issue the other day. I was toying with the settings in the Radeon software (if you have AMD) and it broke Xplane 12 pretty bad. Had to restore the Radeon software to default settings and that fixed the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario Donick Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 (edited) Hey, I bought the SR22 Entegra version today and installed it in X-Plane 12 (Windows 10 / Nivdia RTX 3080 10 GB VRAM / 32 GB RAM / i5-6600 CPU @ 3.30GHz). X-Plane 12 is installed on D:\X-Plane 12. I use a HDD, not a SSD. The plane was activated successfully. Unfortunately, it will crash a few seconds after loading (shortly after the green lights on the PFD and MFD buttons light up). Removing global plugins (of course except Gizmo) did not help. I also tried "disable_mtuploader = 1" as was suggested earlier in this thread, but this did not help either. It makes no difference if I load the plane cold and dark, or with running engines. According to log.txt, it always crashes here: Quote 2024-03-08 16:37:22 SR22TN[entegra.cpp:194]: Init Entegra 2024-03-08 16:37:22 SR22TN[entegraDraw_MFD.cpp:94]: ENTEGRA MFD Draw Init 2024-03-08 16:37:22 SR22TN[entegraDraw_MFD.cpp:131]: Creating Checklists 2024-03-08 16:37:22 SR22TN[entegraDraw_MFD.cpp:135]: Checklists Created, make worker 2024-03-08 16:37:22 SR22TN[entegraDraw_MFD.cpp:137]: Worker made, make renderer --=={This application has crashed!}==-- --=={FILE: D:\X-Plane 12\Log_ATC.txt}==-- --=={UUID: 9e54bec2-3659-46c4-b478-f8384422ba67}==-- Attached is my log.txt and the crash dump. Any help would be appreciated, thanks. Log.txt 9e54bec2-3659-46c4-b478-f8384422ba67.dmp Edited March 8 by Mario Donick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 3 hours ago, Mario Donick said: Hey, I bought the SR22 Entegra version today and installed it in X-Plane 12 (Windows 10 / Nivdia RTX 3080 10 GB VRAM / 32 GB RAM / i5-6600 CPU @ 3.30GHz). X-Plane 12 is installed on D:\X-Plane 12. I use a HDD, not a SSD. The plane was activated successfully. Unfortunately, it will crash a few seconds after loading (shortly after the green lights on the PFD and MFD buttons light up). Removing global plugins (of course except Gizmo) did not help. I also tried "disable_mtuploader = 1" as was suggested earlier in this thread, but this did not help either. It makes no difference if I load the plane cold and dark, or with running engines. According to log.txt, it always crashes here: Attached is my log.txt and the crash dump. Any help would be appreciated, thanks. Can you send a log with disable_mtuploader set to 1? The log shows the crash occurring when the mt uploader is being attached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario Donick Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 58 minutes ago, Coop said: Can you send a log with disable_mtuploader set to 1? The log shows the crash occurring when the mt uploader is being attached. Thanks for your reply. Of course, here you go. Log.txt ea2818dd-31f9-4767-aacf-2aafbd1c50ad.dmp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 On 3/8/2024 at 12:00 PM, Mario Donick said: Thanks for your reply. Of course, here you go. Log.txt 128.86 kB · 1 download ea2818dd-31f9-4767-aacf-2aafbd1c50ad.dmp 17.62 MB · 0 downloads It looks like there might be some permissions issues with your drive, where necessary files aren't being loaded in for rendering of the displays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario Donick Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Coop said: It looks like there might be some permissions issues with your drive, where necessary files aren't being loaded in for rendering of the displays. Hm... okay. In the log.txt, it said Quote SR22TN[odb.c:517]: Error writing obstacle database refresh file D:\X-Plane 12/Aircraft/X-Aviation/SR22 Series Entegra/TorqueSim SR22TN Entegra/plugins/sr_systavi\resources\obsdb\Output\caches\obstacle.db\US\refresh.txt: No such file or directory so I created the subfolder "US" in the obstacle.db folder. In the next attempt, this error did not occur anymore in log.txt, but it still crashed. I also checked the permissions of the complete X-Aviation aircraft folder (which only includes the SR22 currently) and noticed some were set to "read-only". I set all to "read-write". However, the crash still occurs. I have excluded the complete X-Plane 12 folder and all sub-folders from anti virus (default WIndows 10 anti virus solution), so this can also not be the reason. Currently I am a bit clueless what else to try. Maybe the reason is that I use a HDD? Can slower reading times lead to time outs when your plugin tries to read some database files? If so, I can only try to move the plane to my external SSD (attached with USB, which helps _a bit_ usually). I can also try to run X-Plane 12 with administrator rights, but this would be very unusual. EDIT: No difference. Other than that, I don't know what else to do. Maybe my computer just does not want to play nicely with the Entegra. (Could the rather old CPU i5-6600 be the reason?) Edited March 10 by Mario Donick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario Donick Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 On 3/10/2024 at 8:59 PM, Coop said: It looks like there might be some permissions issues with your drive, where necessary files aren't being loaded in for rendering of the displays. Do you have any other suggestions I could try? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 It is likely something computer related, the 4-thread CPU is going to be incredibly difficult on it, so I could see either that or the HDD (though more likely the CPU) being the cause of the issue. This isn't something I have been able to replicate on my end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario Donick Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 (edited) 23 hours ago, Coop said: It is likely something computer related, the 4-thread CPU is going to be incredibly difficult on it, so I could see either that or the HDD (though more likely the CPU) being the cause of the issue. This isn't something I have been able to replicate on my end. Hm, okay. I was assuming the X-Plane 12 system reqs would fit the product as well, since no specific other requirements are mentioned on the shop page for the SR22 Entegra (or I did not see any). I'll uninstall it for now but may use it at a later time. Thanks so far. Edited March 19 by Mario Donick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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