[XP12] Problem with cabin movement (WASD) getting stuck in perpetual movement

[fortin]

In flight, when walking around the cabin, especially with some condition I have yet to reproduce 100% of the time, a key stays "stuck".

Sometimes it's the "forward" movement (W), I've had it happen with "right strafe" (D) as well. And no amount of changing cameras (Shift+1-9) stops it. The camera just keeps moving as if the key was stuck. I've tried minimizing the game, going to settings, I can't find what's causing it.

In Windows, if I open Notepad, it's not typing the key in question (like spamming "wwwwwwwwwwww"), so the key is not physically or virtually stuck at the OS level, it's really just the movement of the camera that is stuck.

I scanned the 24 pages of issues and couldn't find anyone who had reported this before. Am I the only one to whom this happens?

thanks!,

f.

Edited May 27, 2023 by fortin
added xplane version in title

[fortin]

The "condition" is that it usually happens when I'm walking near the cockpit area (to or from the cockpit).

[Pils]

Are you clicking out of the X-Plane window while holding the key down? Or something to that effect?

[fortin]

I don't believe I alt-tab while actively moving. I do usually have the rightmouse button clicked to move my head around. I'll upload a video of it happening, will be a few hours though to upload.

[fortin]

Timestamp: 54m55s

As I'm walking in the cabin, I'm holding a combination of W, D and right mouse click, and there's a brief stutter, then "Forward movement" becomes stuck. Even if I open menus, etc, it still keeps going. I try to counteract it with "S", but it only stops moving while I have S pressed down, as soon as I stop pressing it, the movement resumes. When this happens, the only solution I've found was to restart X-Plane.

[fortin]

Also if I sit on the captain's chair, camera just keeps moving forward through the cockpit and out of the aircraft when this happens.

[Pils]

4 minutes ago, fortin said:

Also if I sit on the captain's chair, camera just keeps moving forward through the cockpit and out of the aircraft when this happens.

Once X-Plane loses the “key up” event there’s nothing in the custom camera management to “snap out of it” that I know of. This is ultimately a bug in the simulator with keyboard handling.

Edited May 27, 2023 by Pils

[fortin]

Have you seen this issue reported at the sim level somewhere? I wasn't able to find anything about the issue on the Xplane forums either, and the Challenger is the only plane that I know that has these WASD camera movement overrides, so I haven't run into this problem before (even though it may exist).

[Pils]

32 minutes ago, fortin said:

Have you seen this issue reported at the sim level somewhere? I wasn't able to find anything about the issue on the Xplane forums either, and the Challenger is the only plane that I know that has these WASD camera movement overrides, so I haven't run into this problem before (even though it may exist).

Losing keyboard events is well known by addon developers, particularly those making use of custom popups. Hence will manifest in different ways to users, depending on the addon, so might be hard to search for.

If you like you can disable the WASD capturing that's done by the CL650 in User Settings, and then bind the "move view fast" commands manually in X-Plane's keyboard controls window (to the same or different keys, readers' choice). This may alleviate the one source of "stuck keys".

[fortin]

Got it, thanks, I'll try rebinding the keys myself and disabling the aircraft overrides, that might help (fingers crossed)!

[RonMont]

On 5/26/2023 at 9:11 PM, fortin said:

In flight, when walking around the cabin, especially with some condition I have yet to reproduce 100% of the time, a key stays "stuck".

Sometimes it's the "forward" movement (W), I've had it happen with "right strafe" (D) as well. And no amount of changing cameras (Shift+1-9) stops it. The camera just keeps moving as if the key was stuck. I've tried minimizing the game, going to settings, I can't find what's causing it.

In Windows, if I open Notepad, it's not typing the key in question (like spamming "wwwwwwwwwwww"), so the key is not physically or virtually stuck at the OS level, it's really just the movement of the camera that is stuck.

I scanned the 24 pages of issues and couldn't find anyone who had reported this before. Am I the only one to whom this happens?

thanks!,

f.

If it can comfort you, you're not the only one.

Just happened to me twice over the past 2 days. with the W key; I tried everything like you to stop it, but no dice.

Had to restart X-Plane.

[bpcw0001]

Observed that behavior occasionally, too. 

 

On 5/27/2023 at 6:56 PM, Pils said:

If you like you can disable the WASD capturing that's done by the CL650 in User Settings, and then bind the "move view fast" commands manually in X-Plane's keyboard controls window (to the same or different keys, readers' choice). This may alleviate the one source of "stuck keys".

Nice tip. Will try, thanks!

[Pils]

Make sure keyboard focus isn’t stuck on AviTab also, if in use.

Edited September 10, 2023 by Pils

[Mjayuk]

This has happened to me twice in the past week.  I find myself departing the cockpit and going on a virtual tour of the airport.  For reference Avitab wasn't in focus.  Nothing I tried (I tried disabling WASD, pausing the app etc) would stop the movement so had to restart.  

I've attached my log files in the hope that there is something captured that might help the devs get to the bottom of this problem.

Mjay (new to the forum)

 

 

logs.zip

[thebizno]

Hello!

As anyone been able to find a fix or some solution to stop this from happening?

Every other flight same happens to me.

Thanks!

[bpcw0001]

On 6/27/2024 at 10:59 AM, thebizno said:

Hello!

As anyone been able to find a fix or some solution to stop this from happening?

Every other flight same happens to me.

Thanks!

 

Yes, it happens to me quite often. 

Sometimes(occasionally!, but by far not reliably), I am able to halt the movement by doing the following:
Let's say my D-key (moving to the right side) gets stuck, and I continue to move to the right side. Then, I press and hold the opposite movement key (here, the A-key) to keep me somewhat stationary, and continously spam the stuck D-key (rapid press/release sequences). That may trick the sim into finally picking up the required "keyup" event from that D-key to make it un-stuck and halt the undesired movement.

If this works or not, might also be highly dependent on your keyboard model.

Edited July 3, 2024 by bpcw0001

[Aviate68]

Just to add, this has happened to me twice in the past two days. Will try to find a way to reproduce it.

[DJSean00]

Also happened to me, so annoying. 

[iblacksand]

TLDR; Hold down key opposing motion camera is move towards to stop the camera, then while keeping that key pressed Alt+Tab out of X-Plane. Release all keys, and Alt+Tab back into X-Plane. From this point, use arrow keys to move around.

For those who find themselves with this bug, I discovered a solution that will at least you finish your flight if you can't restart your sim. In my case, my camera kept moving to the right (D key), so I held down the opposite direction (A key) to stop the camera movement. While holding down that key, you alt-tab out of x-plane. Release the key, and then alt-tab back into X-Plane and the camera should stop moving. However, there is a caveat: you can't press any key in the direction that was affected by the bug (A and D or W and S). If you do, the bug triggers again. I found it best to stop using WASD at this point and just use the arrow keys for the rest of the flight.

The best method to solve this is to save the flight in the airframe manager and rload X-Plane, but the above method helped me when I was on approach on VATSIM.

Edited Friday at 06:42 AM by iblacksand