MarkHargrove Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 I'm starting a serious buildout of the CL650 cockpit and need a little information on actual cockpit dimensions. I've search Google with as many terms as I could think of, but I'm unable find any documentation on dimensions. If I can get an actual dimension of almost anything, I believe I can scale everything else from there. For example, are the avionics panels the standard "Boeing" width of 5.75", and do they follow the standard Dzus "rack units" for height? After trying to scale things from that perspective, I'm suspecting they're wider than that because that leads me to a ridiculously small overhead panel (only about 12" x 18") -- which seems crazy. Any clues at all would help me enormously! Thanks! -Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goran_M Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 Give me a list of what you need, and I'll do what I can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkHargrove Posted February 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 If I could get the six dimensions in the two attached images, I'll be able to scale everything else to the level of accuracy I need. I'm not trying to be ultra-precise -- just in the right ball park as I layout my panels. A is the width of the 'Electrical Power' panel B is the height of the 'Electrical Power' panel C is the width of the overhead at (approximately) its widest point D is the total width of the panels that make up the FCP E is the width of one of the MFDs F is the height of one of the MFDs That's it -- I'm pretty sure I can work things out from there. Thanks! -M. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goran_M Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 A = 14.4cm B = 12.2cm C = 66.4cm D = 38.1cm E = 25cm F = 31.8cm 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pils Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 As someone who has been in the real cockpit, the overhead is compact! It’s jammed packed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkHargrove Posted February 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 Wow, thanks a million! So those are standard aviation panel sizes and yeah, that overhead is pretty darned small (and thanks, Pils, for confirming that). I've considered doing a cockpit buildout a few times over the years, but ultimately decided not to because the underlying aircraft just wasn't complex enough to merit the work. The PMDG 737NG was close -- but I've pretty much abandoned P3D and MSFS just isn't at the 'serious flight simmer' stage yet. The CL650 is totally worth of the effort -- what an amazing job you guys did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pils Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 Good luck! Show us pics please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkHargrove Posted February 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 I will as the build proceeds. Still doing modeling with Fusion 360 right now. -M. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason1970 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 I’m on it too …. Early days … 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goran_M Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Jason1970 said: I’m on it too …. Early days … Very nice. If you need more dimensions, let me know. And keep us all posted on progress. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vehum Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 Nice! Do you have the color code for the panels as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goran_M Posted March 26, 2022 Report Share Posted March 26, 2022 13 hours ago, vehum said: Nice! Do you have the color code for the panels as well? Keep in mind, I couldn't get any "official" RGB code for the panel, as no one had it in any kind of documentation, so I did the best matching color sample I could from various photos, with the most neutral lighting I could find, and came up with an RGB value of 100, 104, 113. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason1970 Posted April 7, 2022 Report Share Posted April 7, 2022 Hi, thought I’ll show the electrical panel . Still not wired but Almost there . ive decided to paint the panels all in black , think it provides a better contrast with the white backlight . I know it’s not like the original grey-ish , but hopefully I won’t regret it later requires the bolt cutouts painting .. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason1970 Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 Bit more done . CDU now with a PCB , though not a matrix it has saved tons of wires… almost there , most already configured too upper panel buttons … pity the 3D part looks a bit rough …. Bit of sending required .. not much but thought I’ll share .. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason1970 Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 Almost there …. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkHargrove Posted November 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2022 What are you using to drive the screen? I see you're using a Leo Bodnar BBI-64 as your button controller (as am I for many of my panels). I've still not gotten to the CDU yet since it's the most complicated panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason1970 Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 The screen is a standalone unit, using WebFMC in full screen to drive it . thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason1970 Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 Here we go , at last a dual annunciator with one tactile switch . Fuel panel right boost pump … glad it’s working IMG_2998.MOV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyD Posted December 15, 2022 Report Share Posted December 15, 2022 On 2/15/2022 at 2:56 AM, Goran_M said: A = 14.4cm B = 12.2cm C = 66.4cm D = 38.1cm E = 25cm F = 31.8cm Goran, would you mind giving us the dimensions of the fueling panel located on the wall behind the First Officer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goran_M Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 On 12/16/2022 at 9:16 AM, RickyD said: Goran, would you mind giving us the dimensions of the fueling panel located on the wall behind the First Officer? Width - 17.4cm Height - 7.13cm And here's a reference image for you to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyD Posted December 21, 2022 Report Share Posted December 21, 2022 Thanks a lot and... Great aircraft! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archen Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 Hi Goran, first of all, thank you for this amazing aircraft. I’ve been using a lot of your products like LES SF34 (I’m a real world SF34 pilot), TBM930 and now the CL650. What you have accomplished with CL650 is astonishing, what a great aircraft. I’m also going to build my cockpit based on your work here but my plan is to go full hybrid setup with hardware switches and panels that work both in 2D flying and VR with hand tracking to position your hands though the headset. Some trial and error required of course to position all switches based on the VR model. Would it be possible to have the files for the panels? Like the engraving and cutouts. I have a fiber laser to do the engraving with backlit panels. Gonna do a test panel in scale and see if it fits in the VR as well or if it needs to be scaled to make the switches in the correct position. appreciate your work and support in the forums. thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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