Cockpit Dimensions

[MarkHargrove]

I'm starting a serious buildout of the CL650 cockpit and need a little information on actual cockpit dimensions.  I've search Google with as many terms as I could think of, but I'm unable find any documentation on dimensions.   If I can get an actual dimension of almost anything, I believe I can scale everything else from there.  For example, are the avionics panels the standard "Boeing" width of 5.75", and do they follow the standard Dzus "rack units" for height?  After trying to scale things from that perspective, I'm suspecting they're wider than that because that leads me to a ridiculously small overhead panel (only about 12" x 18") -- which seems crazy.  Any clues at all would help me enormously!

Thanks!

-Mark  

[Goran_M]

Give me a list of what you need, and I'll do what I can.

[MarkHargrove]

If I could get the six dimensions in the two attached images,  I'll be able to scale everything else to the level of accuracy I need.  I'm not trying to be ultra-precise -- just in the right ball park as I layout my panels.

A is the width of the 'Electrical Power' panel
B is the height of the 'Electrical Power' panel
C is the width of the overhead at (approximately) its widest point

D is the total width of the panels that make up the FCP
E is the width of one of the MFDs
F is the height of one of the MFDs

That's it -- I'm pretty sure I can work things out from there.

Thanks!

-M.

 

[Goran_M]

A = 14.4cm

B = 12.2cm

C = 66.4cm

D = 38.1cm

E = 25cm

F = 31.8cm

[Pils]

As someone who has been in the real cockpit, the overhead is compact! It’s jammed packed.

[MarkHargrove]

Wow, thanks a million! 

So those are standard aviation panel sizes and yeah, that overhead is pretty darned small (and thanks, Pils, for confirming that).

I've considered doing a cockpit buildout a few times over the years, but ultimately decided not to because the underlying aircraft just wasn't complex enough to merit the work.  The PMDG 737NG was close -- but I've pretty much abandoned P3D and MSFS just isn't at the 'serious flight simmer' stage yet.   The CL650 is totally worth of the effort -- what an amazing job you guys did.

[Pils]

Good luck! Show us pics please!

[MarkHargrove]

I will as the build proceeds.  Still doing modeling with Fusion 360 right now.

-M.

[Jason1970]

I’m on it too …. Early days …

[Goran_M]

1 hour ago, Jason1970 said:

I’m on it too …. Early days …

 

Very nice.  If you need more dimensions, let me know.

And keep us all posted on progress.

[vehum]

Nice!
Do you have the color code for the panels as well?

[Goran_M]

13 hours ago, vehum said:

Nice!
Do you have the color code for the panels as well?

Keep in mind, I couldn't get any "official" RGB code for the panel, as no one had it in any kind of documentation, so I did the best matching color sample I could from various photos, with the most neutral lighting I could find, and came up with an RGB value of 100, 104, 113.

[Jason1970]

Hi, thought I’ll show the electrical panel . Still not wired but Almost there .

 

ive decided to paint the panels all in black , think it provides a better contrast with the white backlight . I know it’s not like the original grey-ish , but hopefully I won’t regret it later

requires the bolt cutouts painting ..

[Jason1970]

Bit more done . 
CDU now with a PCB , though not a matrix it has saved tons of wires… almost there , most already configured too

 

upper panel buttons … pity the 3D part looks a bit rough …. Bit of sending required .. 

not much but thought I’ll share ..

 

 

[Jason1970]

Almost there …. 

[MarkHargrove]

What are you using to drive the screen?  I see you're using a Leo Bodnar BBI-64 as your button controller (as am I for many of my panels).  I've still not gotten to the CDU yet since it's the most complicated panel.

 

[Jason1970]

The screen is a standalone unit, using WebFMC in full screen to drive it . 
 

thank you

[Jason1970]

Here we go , at last a dual annunciator with one tactile switch . Fuel panel right boost pump … glad it’s working

[RickyD]

On 2/15/2022 at 2:56 AM, Goran_M said:

A = 14.4cm

B = 12.2cm

C = 66.4cm

D = 38.1cm

E = 25cm

F = 31.8cm

Goran, would you mind giving us the dimensions of the fueling panel located on the wall behind the First Officer?

[Goran_M]

On 12/16/2022 at 9:16 AM, RickyD said:

Goran, would you mind giving us the dimensions of the fueling panel located on the wall behind the First Officer?

Width - 17.4cm

Height - 7.13cm

And here's a reference image for you to use.

[RickyD]

Thanks a lot and... Great aircraft!

[archen]

Hi Goran,

first of all, thank you for this amazing aircraft. I’ve been using a lot of your products like LES SF34 (I’m a real world SF34 pilot), TBM930 and now the CL650. What you have accomplished with CL650 is astonishing, what a great aircraft. 
 

I’m also going to build my cockpit based on your work here but my plan is to go full hybrid setup with hardware switches and panels that work both in 2D flying and VR with hand tracking to position your hands though the headset. 
 

Some trial and error required of course to position all switches based on the VR model. 
 

Would it be possible to have the files for the panels? Like the engraving and cutouts. 
 

I have a fiber laser to do the engraving with backlit panels. 
 

Gonna do a test panel in scale and see if it fits in the VR as well or if it needs to be scaled to make the switches in the correct position. 
 

appreciate your work and support in the forums. 
 

thank you