People are valuing the product here solely on cosmetic criteria. An interesting perspective, for an X-plane community. It is interesting - and rather worrying - to me that there has not been one comment in this discussion regarding flight model accuracy or documentation with the A380; the two other corners of the payware triangle, and an area that I hope the CRJ gets right. I'll buy it anyway; but you get my meaning. It is irrelevant whether there's a pretty VC and 3D model if there's scant documentation and you haven't a clue how the thing flies. When it comes to simming with performance-critical aircraft, one cannot have enough data. PMDG learnt this 13yrs ago (it is how they started in the FS community) and their documentation is still the standard, in my opinion. Peter Hager, as I understand it, is very thorough in this discipline. This is an area of X-Plane (and MSFS, but winds me up more with X-plane because I hold it to a higher standard) that continues to frustrate me; utterly fantastic models are released basically 'as is'; test flying - whilst great fun - is rapidly replaced with frustration when one cannot plan a flight regime thoroughly; it is actually far easier to learn the plane when you know the numbers you're aiming for in a given flight regime. Rgds James