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Gee, this thread's got legs eh!Good to see friendly banter.. I've seen the Flight screens and vids, they look promising, but worryingly FSX Like. At least simming is looking up rather than nil development. Just saw this vid of the 737NGX, nice lighting. A yr ago I would have been gobsmacked, now it's 'oh, that looks almost as good as xplane'!

VERY nice flying there L!

Wow, when is this app out?!

Matthew, quite a few of us have FSX. I don't use it though, very close to uninstalling. Would you get 60fps with the PMDG? As stated elsewhere, the CRJ200 does not have VNAV as the real plane doesn't. Real pilots don't need it anyway ;D

That is great news, I hoped you'd get together. Look fwd to some amazing tools!

Woah! Saves on sick bags? Garbage disposal?

NGC, I know how professionally G takes his work, what you said is just ignorant and shows your impatience. Goran's long reply shows you how seriously he takes it. Plus, why would they release it in the middle of the CRJ peak? Besides, I still haven't mastered the CRJ, give me time!

Inspired! The SC was one of the most beautiful aircraft ever built

"Gear Textured" - Jaw Dropped.. ;D

Hear, hear Cyrano'! I too am enjoying the resurgence of simming. Rise of Flight has amazing night effects too. Pity I find the planes too slow ;D Wings of Prey runs fantastic too. Pity I find the planes too arcadey > I see the Arma crew are doing a great looking new helo sim, you should like that - If they improve their Arma flight model by 100 billion percent! Arma is an amazing looking game, but ugh, the flight model... For all our sakes, I hope Steve Jobs fails at his very effective attempts at trying to kill off the pc/desktop. For years I floundered in console land, never seeing a sim that satisfied.

Me Jealous. Take pics/vids for us!

Gents, please keep this discussion open and civil. I respect LAs experience and viewpoints as much as anyone's. I too don't want this BBQ to be ultra xplane biased. I've heard a few real world pilots say they like fsx too, & am interested in the reasons why. Seriously,PMDG go over to MSFLIGHT???? haha, only if the next Boeing uses embedded Kinect controllers. Just don't sneeze at flare!

Perry, my CPU is 2.66 stock and I push it to 3.6 ish, but it's not just clock speed that determines performance. I didn't just upgrade for Xp, as Perry knows. Learnt how to cold start the hog yet eh??

Nova, I suspect your CPU is the bottleneck, I'll tell u my improvements, if any, after ep. 2! Ive heard that xplane is more cpu intensive, exactly why i got an i7 2 yrs ago and still love it. I had a gtx275, still have it sitting in my kitchen, so sad..I might hook it up to my SNES.

Anyone upgraded their pc components recently? I've just been having fun with my project, revolt at my fugly face here! Never tried it before. http://xplane10.wordpress.com/2011/06/08/gtx560-gpu-and-ssd-install-time/

Tom, you summed up my observations re. the quality of the 3d rendering, it just doesn't match the latest xplane stuff. I'm sure the systems are complex as I've heard they are, but it's nice for us to be able to start comparing closely. They used to excuse the PMDG fps issues due to deep systems, now they don't have that excuse compared to Xp. You can never say never/ever, can you? Especially with xplane and its talented gurus :-)

Simbabeat, I knew I shouldn't have made comparisons! They're very good though. Fantastic after 5 yrs of development! The clouds were the best thing about the first. I'm actually looking forward to the weather/cloud engine in XP10 more than anything, I think it's going to be something special.

Thanks for your perspective Kesomir. Yes, msfs is looking dated, if not for Orbx it wouldnt be as popular. I used to love fsbreak, but with Nick and Chris dominating, it's just not the same. Bring back Mark!

Oh dear, the might get some responses! I'm only observing.. I just bought a new GPU, a bargain GTX560 OC Ti, as fast as a 570 but only $259. mainly got it to max out A-10C and do me for the first yr of XP10. Haven't installed it yet, so was looking at recent YouTube vids of FSXers and their new PCs to see the likely improvements. One thing really struck me. Even with their latest i7s and cutting edge GPUs, most still struggle to run a PMDG level plane like the CRJ is, often exhibiting horrible stutters or FPS issues. Also, is it me, or are these PMDG panels pseudo 3d, they look very 2d in parts? I haven't heard the Fsbreak podcast for ages, their FSX dominance has grated on me. I think Cameron needs to pay them a virtual visit and show them what they're missing! The CRJ and other leading planes seem to be so much more real and immersive than these supposed industry leaders. Ok our scenery might not be as detailed, but with orthophoto scenery it's pretty convincing. Some recent vids I found. Really, by now you would think that our amazing new cards would eat up fsx and PMDG. Not quite yet! : Pretty, but sttutttuttuuuuttery... This guy is so scared of fps loss/stuttering, he daren't move his view! This plane looks like it's on rails, oh and see how he keeps rotating the camera to....avoid....the....stu...tters! Very nice flight, but this cabin looks almost 2D. Plus he chugs at the end on approach. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBjn6J9xItw

Well that last plugin test was pretty much a last ditch effort, thank god it worked! Didn't know what I was missing

Thanks. I think it was just a hiccup, Aussie accents can be hard sometoimes. I guess I've now established a new Vref, Vhop! Seriously, best results via nil flaps and deft use of throttle. MAN I LOVE THIS PLANE!

Big scare this morning. Loaded up the CRJ, my heart sank. None of my MFDs were working. Arrrrghhh!!! Then I realised I was in cold start mode.... Almost to takeoff stage, going well so far. Tutorial is easy to follow.

Ha, I picked the song quickly, as it had a good beat, but when u watch it, the lyrics do go very well with the vision.

Enjoy! Oh, it'll be sold at X-Aviation.. http://xplane10.wordpress.com/2011/06/04/a-brief-weekend-update-t-28c-trojan-issue/

Haha Arnaud, also 'resupply in-flight meal trays!' Mateus- I stalled not long after! Yes, with no passengers and max thrust, I was surprised how quickly she climbed.