Fly helicopters? I have tried in all default ones, but I cannot get them to: Take off without spinning Hover Land without starting to go backward For taking off,I ease back the collective VERY slowly, and try to keep everything still in all degrees of movement. I have collective set to a point where it doesn't move very much vertically, but the pitch makes large movements fore and aft. When I flare to land, it always seems to slow down, then rapidly climb backwards. Addtl info: CH products Yoke and Pedals I'll try to record a video later to show what I mean. Any advice? Do I just need practice?