woweezowee Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) ok, issues: 1. Radio Hardware: My Goflight stuff won't work even when switching the new button "radio hardware" to on. They do not light up, while the Go Flight plugin recognizes them just fine. 2. I can not control my throttle with my Saitek TPM hardware. The BAE assigns another axis to it. See the screenshot (*): The upper "throttle" is what the BAE wants, the lower one is what I use. When I choose "joystick assign", I am able to control it, but as soon as I turn it off again I will also loose my throttle again. 3. What's really bad: Even if loading another plane, then quitting X-Plane - after restarting X-Plane, those wrong settings are kept and I have to restore my previous preferences folder in order to have it all "normal" again. (*) Screenshot Edited January 20, 2013 by woweezowee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 Markus, I have to ask...have you throughly read the manual? Specifically, page 48, red text? Also outlined in there is the topic on how to avoid what you are encountering in step three. 1. Radio Hardware: My Goflight stuff won't work even when switching the new button "radio hardware" to on. They do not light up, while the Go Flight plugin recognizes them just fine.Sorry, I'm not exactly clear on your explanation here. They do not light up, but the plug-in recognizes them? Can you clarify this a bit more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woweezowee Posted January 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) locker down (!), yes - I followed the manual and the video tutorial. maybe I misunderstood. But: Rudder and Yoke do move, i.e. they are not locked. those settings (my "normal" ones) do not come back even if doing the switch to another plane: Edited January 18, 2013 by woweezowee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woweezowee Posted January 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) GOFLIGHTSorry, I'm not exactly clear on your explanation here. They do not light up, but the plug-in recognizes them? Can you clarify this a bit more? the hardware itself (GF-46 and RP48) shows numbers, lights etc. - However it does not with the Jetstream. They stay dark. Checking the status of Sandys Goflight plugin: They are recognized by X-Plane. Edit: Quick iphone picture of the GoFlight, TPM (and other stuff)… Edited January 18, 2013 by woweezowee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 Interesting. There must be something different in the way Sandy is seeking out the datarefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japo32 Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 Mmm I do not supply any plugin to control hardware. I only let the modification of datarefs in radios, so the user has to have the hardware good with any other airplane. It is easy to test. With Datarefs editor and the new "radio hardware" now you can change the number. Before not. About the duplicate of throttles.. Yes.. I had that before.. but was not because the plane... .. but I don't remember right now why it was... I suggest you to give all the axis a none assignation and then assign then all in other plane. Load the Jetstream and try it (of course after unlock the controls locker)I think I remember something about dual configuration.. Was because I was loading same xplane in windows and mac so each one made different asignations but preserve the old one.. I think.. maybe..... If I remember I will tell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woweezowee Posted January 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) Mmm I do not supply any plugin to control hardware. I only let the modification of datarefs in radios, so the user has to have the hardware good with any other airplane. It is easy to test. With Datarefs editor and the new "radio hardware" now you can change the number. Before not. About the duplicate of throttles.. Yes.. I had that before.. but was not because the plane... .. but I don't remember right now why it was... I suggest you to give all the axis a none assignation and then assign then all in other plane. Load the Jetstream and try it (of course after unlock the controls locker)I think I remember something about dual configuration.. Was because I was loading same xplane in windows and mac so each one made different asignations but preserve the old one.. I think.. maybe..... If I remember I will tell you. ok, further tests: GoFlight: It does work when on battery; it does not work when on ground power. (both avionics switches on in both cases) Axis: No chance. I did reset to none all of them, went into another plane, made them all over again, went back to the BAE - but the same throttle issue persists. P.S.: I can't even control the throttle with the mouse. Edited January 18, 2013 by woweezowee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japo32 Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) Did it work correctly in other versions (1.01?, 1.0?) I have no problem with the throttles in my computer.can you reset the preferences and try?Also try in a fresh demo of xplane? No plugin installed but just the jetstream? also try to press the label "power" in the pedestal. It will disable the joystick assignation so you can control it with mouse, keys or manipulators. Try it. Edited January 18, 2013 by Japo32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woweezowee Posted January 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 will try in my demo install and report back. The earlier version I never used because I never used XP10.20 in 32bits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woweezowee Posted January 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 No luck. My demo install (no other plugins) loaded with the C90. I made sure that all axis are set to "none". Loading the BAE immediately the "wrong" axis is assigned to the throttle. And also in the demo the mouse can't move the throttle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japo32 Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 but, did you have the previous versions of the Jetstream? could you try?Cameron could you please send him a 1.01 version to let him try? I think for now (unless other people still didn't try) it is only you that is having the issue. I don't find any problem with the throttle or other axis assignation. And the plane was tested (the 1.02 version but the 1.03 is only changing little things) with no issue like that.... The first I think is, that is because your system.But please try that 1.01 version please when Cameron send you (or if you have it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woweezowee Posted January 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 I can try, but my X-Plane uses easily more than 3,5gb vRam (current settings around 8), wich is why I basically was out of game as long as 32bits were the only option. I can try with rendering down to "normal compressed" or lower of course. I can restore the old versions from time machine, no need to send it to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woweezowee Posted January 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) version 1.01 in 32bits works as advertised. As soon as the BAE loads I have throttle as you have in your tutorial video. All settings are restored when changing planes again. So it is an issue with 1.03 only. Edited January 18, 2013 by woweezowee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japo32 Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 But why no other user has this problem? Can you use it with the option of joystick in green? At least if you can there...As said I don't find the problem in my computers.... did you delete preferences? I am not doing anything special in the axis in this 1.03. Only when the button of joy-green is pressed in menu. Can you try to asign other axis to the throttle to see if it is working or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japo32 Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 About the memory and 32 bits... there is no problem using it. All we have 3.5gb in 32 bits (if we have 4gb at least) and I for example, am using the full resolution textures with 32 bits without problem. The size of the textures comes to the memory of the video card.. not the system memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woweezowee Posted January 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) As I already said: I can change axis when the joystick option is green. But in any case, my "original" settings are not automatically restored when switching back to another plane. Version 1.01 does this just fine. With version 1.03 the wrong throttle is kept and Prop and mixture are lost… I have no intention of completely deleting the prefs after the test in the demo was no success either. Too much hassle (today) to set it all up again. What do you mean with "assign other axis to the throttle"? yes, of course my speedbrakes will work as the throttle then, but that does not make any sense (edit re: 32/64bit: unfortunately that's wrong. the lowest possible setting was used for the test above, still resulting in 3,7GB mem usage. Believe me, I tried a lot over the past year. But I'm over it, 64bit is here and I won't go back to 32bit. I bought your plane knowing that I won't be able to use it in 64-bit, by the way) Edited January 18, 2013 by woweezowee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japo32 Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 make enough sense to test. Please try with your speedbrakes hardware axis to see if you can control with that rotary (or what it is) the throttle.The propeller was "lost" since 1.01. I deleted the hardware asignation because I needed inside the plugin to make it work. Right now I have just tested the 1.03 in 10.11 32bits and 10.20 beta 11 No problems at all. If I don't find the problem in my computer I cannot solve it because there is no problem. I think (maybe I am wrong, but my experience with the CRJ200 tells me that) that there is something in your configuration that is affecting your Throttle. Maybe the joy.. maybe other hardware... who knows.. but I don't have your computer here to try. You are the one that have to do it, Do you have other joystick to try? Please assign even in yours any other axis rotary or handle you have, even if it has no sense to you. It is just try and discard posible problems. For example.. if it is working in other axis, then the problem is in the joy or something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woweezowee Posted January 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 make enough sense to test. Please try with your speedbrakes hardware axis to see if you can control with that rotary (or what it is) the throttle.The propeller was "lost" since 1.01. I deleted the hardware asignation because I needed inside the plugin to make it work. I already said: yes, speedbrakes will be able to control throttle in the Jetstream. What I wanted to say with "no sense" was: I won't use a "wrong" setup. What I meant with "prop is lost" = it is still lost when changing to another plane - NOT so with version 1.01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japo32 Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) Ok.. so as you say: 1. Other axis (the one that you apply to speedbrakes) works with throttle in the plane.. AHAAAAA!! OK.. good good.. going good. Can you try to set your hardware throttle to the yaw of the plane to see if it works? or other function different than the Throttle of the plane? The prop will be lost if was lost already. If you load it from other plane working.. and exit the jetstream to another plane loading, you will have it there. Edited January 18, 2013 by Japo32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woweezowee Posted January 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 The prop will be lost if was lost already. If you load it from other plane working.. and exit the jetstream to another plane loading, you will have it there. No. That's what I mean with "lost". As in: Lost forever. It all stays as in the first screenshot I posted here, compared to the second. Version 1.01 totally reverts back to the settings in this second screenshot. So it is not only about the throttle, but the complete different behaviour between the previous BAE version and the new version. you see? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japo32 Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 Yes.. yes.. I see it but I don't see it. What I mean is I see you have a problem.. but I cannot reproduce it. As said also with the propeller axis and mixture.. as the throttle.. nothing is lost when changing to other plane. If you follow the instructions correctly as the manual says there is no problem. At least in my computer with 1.03.No other user reported anything about this (and believe me when something goes wrong users run to type!!! but when everything goes smooth they just fly) So for now I don't know what to say you but, there is a conflict inside your system that is making the issue. Do you have another computer? A laptop to try? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woweezowee Posted January 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) ok, correction: this time Prop and mixture was restored when changing back to another plane, but… 1. X-Plane loaded with my defaults and the Baron.2. Loading the BAE throttle, mixture and prop are lost, as well as the speedbrakes, wich are replaced by the throttle. So: With my hardware speedbrakes I can now control the throttle of the plane. Lock is OFF, so I can move my yoke etc.pp.3. Switching on "joystick assign" I can assign as I want, e.g. yaw as throttle et cetera.4. As soon as I switch off "joystick assign" the BAE reverts back to point 2, i.e. my Speedbrakes are my throttle again now.5. Loading another plane at least the Speedbrake/throttle issue remains. Clearly NOT the case with version 1.01 wich perfectly accepts my settings and restores them exactly like before when loading another plane. Edited January 18, 2013 by woweezowee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woweezowee Posted January 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 unfortunaltey I have no other computer able to run XP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woweezowee Posted January 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) steps 1-5 … 6. and this is after loading another plane, the Baron again, with prop and mixture running, and then exiting X-Plane. Re-Starting X-Plane now prop and mixture were lost, the wrong throttle/speedbrake thing was there, too. Edited January 18, 2013 by woweezowee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woweezowee Posted January 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 I cannot reproduce it. …. At least in my computer with 1.03. you do try in 64-bit as I do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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