gilbenl Posted July 2, 2009 Report Posted July 2, 2009 Goran-I am fairly certain that the "dip" in the fuse where the engines go is farrr too extreme. On the real aircraft, it is actually fairly modest. You'll be able to really tell when you put on the engined (assuming you model them appropriately.) You may want to consider scaling the X/Z axis on the back 9...so to speak.
Goran_M Posted July 2, 2009 Author Report Posted July 2, 2009 Sometimes I hate schematics.It's an easy fix though. I might tweak it a bit more though next time.UPDATED:This is actually more like it.
Goran_M Posted July 3, 2009 Author Report Posted July 3, 2009 All parts assembled minus the rudder (Which I still have to model) and the cockpit which is on another layer. I haven't merged the cockpit objects into 1 object yet. Still a few more things to add and tweak before I apply the mirror modifier but it's getting closer to being finished.Also, a small footnote. I'm probably going to do some fine tuning and a few additions in either 3DS Max or Maya. They both have a few more tools than Blender.
OlaHaldor Posted July 4, 2009 Report Posted July 4, 2009 It's by no means my position to judge, but seriously. You have BOTH Maya and 3D Max? Man, wish I had your wallet.. ;D Not to get my hands on another 3D application, but to spend on nice plug-ins or so. I use LightWave 3D. Couldn't be happier. Incredible pricing, nice and intuitive interface, and awesome modeling tools.But let's head back to stay on topic.I bet you get this a lot - do you have an estimated release date? Two months? I can't WAIT for this be released. I love aircraft in this size. Not too big, not too small.
Goran_M Posted July 4, 2009 Author Report Posted July 4, 2009 HahaAlways put your pennies away for a rainy day. I was lucky that I had a big jar that could hold a lot of pennies. ;DRelease date is hard to say.It's been just over 2 months since I started working on this project and I gave myself a maximum time frame of 6 months to finish it, but I can probably see it getting released earlier than that. Specific time (eg, end of August) is hard to say. I don't know how much trouble I'm going to have with datarefs and possibly some plug ins. Rest assured, I'm working very hard on this and I want to fly it as much as the next guy.Goran
Goran_M Posted July 6, 2009 Author Report Posted July 6, 2009 Beta version of the PM version of the Hawker. Have to fix it so it works with 9.30.So far, the FADEC doesn't work.Livery done by Theo Gregory (Also a beta. A few things will be "tweaked". Who made up that word anyway???)GoranI almost forgot. This will be freeware..obviously
Goran_M Posted July 6, 2009 Author Report Posted July 6, 2009 Not much to post for now on the payware version.It's 3am and last night and yesterday I was deleting vertices that aren't visible and/or not needed and "streamlined" the aircraft to maximize FPS. There was 1 part in the cockpit that I modelled and subsurfed. I re modelled this part and it went from 45000 vertices to 684. Yes, 684...NOT 684 000 but 684. I hate subsurf!I built the tail section, flap tracks and rebuilt the wings to make them resemble the actual wing more closely going by photos. All control surfaces are cut. A few more things to model, add some lights, fine tune the model in Maya or 3DS Max, UV mapping and then I start animating!Goran
-TheoGregory Posted July 7, 2009 Report Posted July 7, 2009 Im not entirely happy with how the paint came out... but i think its the cockpit windows and cabin windows that are bothering me (The landing gear too). Also that its Built entirely in PM and I hate looking at entirely PM things .I might improve on reflections also and other things along those lines
Goran_M Posted July 8, 2009 Author Report Posted July 8, 2009 Update for the Hawker 4000.I made a post on the .org forums and got a pretty good response from people there.I had some help from Scooter (aka Ari) for modelling the rounded edges of the wings where the wing lights and nav lights are located. He sent me a couple of screenshots of wireframes and it looked pretty good.However, not taking anything away from Scooter, I found a new way to model the rounded edge as my wing looks different to the wing he modelled for his Hawker. (The cross section) So his method would not give a smooth result for my wing.I actually came up with this method while I was in the shower. Believe it or not, I get a lot of ideas for modelling the objects when I'm in the shower, shaving or brushing my teeth.What is this new way? TOP SECRET! (For now. I think I can tweak it to give an even better result. When I finish with this method, I'll put up a tutorial in the 3D shop section.) Anyway, more screenshots and a nice close up of the wing edge. Also a wireframe showing all the cut control surfaces and a semi built rudder and tail section.I've also heavily cut down some vertices and tweaked the entire shape of all the objects slightly to smoothen them out a bit more.It's coming together.
Goran_M Posted July 9, 2009 Author Report Posted July 9, 2009 It'd be a real fluke it was the same method you use.
Goran_M Posted July 9, 2009 Author Report Posted July 9, 2009 1 of the last batches of screenshots of the 3D model before I start animating and texturing.The vertical fin took 2 days worth of modelling, deleting, re modelling, etc... (that perfectionism rears its head many times)Especially the top section which was another merge of ellipse to square (Square part is on the top). Elevators have been cut and will need to be modelled correctly (Rounding off the root of the elevators).Overall, this aircraft is turning out EXACTLY how I want it. There will be other minor tweaks here and there to fix some shapes but they are very small and will take minutes.Air intake at the base of the vertical tail will be added.APU exhaust will be moved.The gap that is visible between the rudder and the top section of the vertical fin is actually there on the real aircraft. Release will be a lot earlier than anticipated.No firm dates yet but it will be soon.As always, feedback and comments are always welcome!
Goran_M Posted July 10, 2009 Author Report Posted July 10, 2009 A small update that took most of the night.Finished the control surfaces, rounded the root of all of them, cut out some more polys that could be cut so I can get back some more fps, tweaked some more shapes, finished the air intake on the tail.I'll do some more tomorrow.Modelling should be completed by some time in the next 2 weeks. (I still have to model the overhead panel and cabin.) That's when I'll hand over the UV maps to Theo for texturing and while he textures, I'll be doing all the animations. Then come the datarefs, making sure the panel works, some test flights and fixes if necessary, then I release it!!
Airbus Posted July 11, 2009 Report Posted July 11, 2009 ??? What the devil is going on with image shack. Its driving me crazy.!
Goran_M Posted July 11, 2009 Author Report Posted July 11, 2009 A quick bit of news on something I was doing.I was working on the PM version of the Hawker updating it for 9.30 and I thought about something.I'm going to start the PM version from scratch with a completely new flight model and better exterior modelling. I got my hands on some new data (from Raytheon no less!) and I will be entering this new data into the flight model.The Blender obj version is still progressing smoothly and nothing will be done to hinder the progress, but I figured the final release of 9.30 will be out before I finish the obj version and the PM version only took 2 or 3 days to finish.In its current state, it's too buggy for me to spend time on fixing things for it to work in 9.30. It's probably going to take me longer to fix the bugs than it will to make a completely new model.The only other thing I have issues with at the moment is the Hawkers FMC. I don't know it, I don't want to know it and I'm not going to model it. It will take way too much programming and if I do find some way to model it, release probably won't be until early next year. Perhaps, sometime in the future, I might add it as an add on, but upon release, this aircraft will be available with only the default X Plane FMC.Goran
Goran_M Posted July 13, 2009 Author Report Posted July 13, 2009 Cockpit was modified slightly modified since this screenshot was taken.Cockpit is still a WIP. More modifications and rebuilding will be done.
OlaHaldor Posted July 13, 2009 Report Posted July 13, 2009 wow, my heart just imploded - to make space for a new one, labeled HAWKER!
Goran_M Posted July 19, 2009 Author Report Posted July 19, 2009 Hawker 4000 flight model is COMPLETE for X-Plane 9.31. I just spent 2 days making the flight model (using some info I got from Hawker Raytheon) and making a new Planemaker version. And it flies BETTER than the 9.22 version I made.I might tweak some settings because the autopilot can't capture the flight level "cleanly" but handling, takeoff roll, landing, all the good stuff is working beautifully.The shapes of all the parts of the aircraft have been made cleaner and I made every effort to create all planemaker parts as accurately as possible so the flight model can reflect that accuracy.I'm half thinking to make the planemaker model "donationware" but it'll probably be freeware.We'll see.Anyway, more updates soon.Goran
Goran_M Posted July 22, 2009 Author Report Posted July 22, 2009 Cabin under construction. Unfortunately, it will be a somewhat higher than expected poly count. I'll see how I go with it.Goran
OlaHaldor Posted July 22, 2009 Report Posted July 22, 2009 I have a suggestion, if I may. Do the general form, not as deep and detailed as you have now, and rather make the depth of the seams with textures.
Goran_M Posted July 22, 2009 Author Report Posted July 22, 2009 I might make a separate set of low poly seats as an alternative.Goran
OlaHaldor Posted July 22, 2009 Report Posted July 22, 2009 That would be smart. I believe I've seen other planes (the Hurricane for instance) with a low and high poly version.
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