ARTIK Posted May 9, 2011 Report Posted May 9, 2011 Enjoy the Runway Roll...http://sound4xplane.wordpress.com/2011/05/09/artymowicz-aviation-crj-200-runway-roll-replacement-sound/regardsarti
Kesomir Posted May 9, 2011 Report Posted May 9, 2011 That's much better. I didn't like the original shudder and cat eye rumbles, and your version is a great improvement for me.
john82088 Posted May 9, 2011 Report Posted May 9, 2011 Great! Thank you for putting that together.John
ARTIK Posted May 9, 2011 Author Report Posted May 9, 2011 Thanks, it's the fastest fix. In my free time I'll try to fix too short internal engine samples, with the hiccups.regardsarti
Nova Posted May 9, 2011 Report Posted May 9, 2011 Hmm, i will stick to the original one.Since i always had the feeling that ground sounds were too loud,i have set it to 50% since the very first days of XP9.Avionics fans are at 50% as well, and weather only at 25%.
Japo32 Posted May 9, 2011 Report Posted May 9, 2011 Thanks. Everybody can choose, and I still like much more the one I chose. But I am nerd, I know and assume it ;D
Japo32 Posted May 10, 2011 Report Posted May 10, 2011 Ok.. here there are people that like fish. I like meat. It is good to have a menu around, but I think there is an issue here about sounds, because people don't hear the same I hear.On this case of the rolling sound, I much preffer the one I included becuase is more strong in force.. has more feeling. I am not saying that the one here new is not bad.. but I preffer the old one. Of course everyone can choose, but still I will continue using the old one until we make a plugin for sound on future updates.Here is a video of the CRJ sounds actual stage made by simmspotters:
flyinhawaiian Posted May 10, 2011 Report Posted May 10, 2011 Seems the real sound is somewhere in-between the two, but I think I prefer the original better, as well... One sound that could be modeled is the wind-noise at speed. In an jet, the ambient noise from the air hitting the nose of the jet is quite loud, if we could have a sound file to replicate this (if there isn't already, have it turned up a bit) that would be awesome. That being said, the in-cockpit sounds included with the file seem spot-on, otherwise
bokepacha Posted May 10, 2011 Report Posted May 10, 2011 I could finally check Arty's sounds and they miss something. Those are good roll movements if you hear them from inside the gear, but they miss all the vibration that makes the different parts of the plane to hit eachother and produce that plastic and metal sound crashing. You can hear that sound in every single landing but it's missing in his sound update.My poor 2 cents ;D
ARTIK Posted May 10, 2011 Author Report Posted May 10, 2011 If you look for more realism please read the description about the vibration devices and redownload the file.
bokepacha Posted May 10, 2011 Report Posted May 10, 2011 Hi Arty,I was reading that before posting my opinion, but it's different. I'm not talking about "I think both sounds need more "punch"", I talk about the differences between both sounds. I use a 5.1 sound system and I can give more power to lower sounds but my opinion is:Your sound is very good for something moving fast through the runway, but missed all the vibration sounds inside the cockpit. It is the same as if you are hearing the sound OUTSIDE the cockpit. Dunno if I made myself clearer this time xD
Dispatch Posted May 10, 2011 Report Posted May 10, 2011 Hi there,I'll stick to the original one, too. Simply because it better pretends the movement. My personal opinion. But thank you very much for sharing your work! Cheers.
bokepacha Posted May 10, 2011 Report Posted May 10, 2011 But thank you very much for sharing your work! Cheers.Yeah+1
ARTIK Posted May 10, 2011 Author Report Posted May 10, 2011 Your sound is very good for something moving fast through the runway, but missed all the vibration sounds inside the cockpit. It is the same as if you are hearing the sound OUTSIDE the cockpit. Dunno if I made myself clearer this time xDToday I've uploaded second ver. with some delicate squeeks. We need to consider 2 things: squeeking sounds and vibrations.You'll not get the whole idea of now it sounds&feels without the vibration device, believe me...The problem is everyone has medium or high quality monitors but the speaker quality varies widely from laptops toyz, chineese $5 buzzers, boombox quality 2500+W cheap speekers;) gamers bad stuff, studio nearfield monitors, home cinema stuff, headphones etc... 2.0 2.1 5.1 6.1, THX (very funny). We need to rely on the Standards to judge the sound quality. The easiest way it to use the nearfield monitors plus vibration optionally. I've prepared special calibration tones for tnie purpose. Trust me the quality starts on the nearfield quality monitors. more on my blog...Regardsarti
Japo32 Posted May 10, 2011 Report Posted May 10, 2011 hehe... when you starts to say.. "thrust me" "believe me" "you have to have"... then you start to understand me.. when I release a plane and everyone see different things that I see.... And I try to convince them that the way it is done is better than theirs........But nothing to do man!!! hahahaha ;D ;D ;D ;DWell the sound you are trying to substitude it is one of I like most. I know that I am not audio technicial audio, and yours are better in technich for sure!! (I don't doubt it) but there is a feeling inside about those irons crashing.. .etc etc.... how I love it!!! I mixed everything on that noise!!But your is also good. Well people will decide for sure! I will try to learn how to use the sound plugin to implement new ones.
bokepacha Posted May 10, 2011 Report Posted May 10, 2011 I'll check it after work.I don't use crap speakers/soundcard since year 2000. I agree with you it's in the same level of interest as monitors, but if I require the item you mention, then it's not a sound for everyone and the default one has a better chance of spreading.Anyway, your sounds are far away from being bad or regular!!!
ARTIK Posted May 10, 2011 Author Report Posted May 10, 2011 It's not that funny. The real problem is the people without professional trained hearing, musical background, have no ability to properly define the frequency range in Hz, or the dynamic range in dB, artifact type, distortions etc etc they have no way to describe the sound properties other than laconic hipitch or low pitch, boomy, noisy, etc. It's difficult to talk with users and force them to use the proper equipment. With visuals everyone can see the smallest chunk of image, shadow, highlight, name the colors, shapes, gradients it's way more descriptive even without the specialized eye training. The vocabulary is way more richer. Also the difference in picture quality on modern medium to high quality monitors are not that huge these days, even the latest generation TN monitors with the right angles looks quite good.These are apples and oranges. arti
ARTIK Posted May 10, 2011 Author Report Posted May 10, 2011 @bokepacha: please don't take it personal probably you're using very good quality speakers. But you're right my sounds are not for everyone or directly targeted for low&medium quality sound path, but they are backward compatible as much as possible (but no you can't substitute the vibration channel with a LFE channel). "far away from being bad" : ) so sweet hehe*, you know, the whole X-Plane sound is a child's play compared to my other creative audio visual activities since '80[Edited]* I'm joking, I love good sense of humor
bokepacha Posted May 10, 2011 Report Posted May 10, 2011 No, I don't take anything personally xDSo, are you telling me that you use an specific channel for vibration? That will make me understand more things. I didn't understood that in the first time."far away from being bad"--> Surely it's a bad translation. I mean your sounds are very good as said before, but not totally useful for me now ;D I won't be the one telling you anything bad about your work
TOBS Posted May 13, 2011 Report Posted May 13, 2011 I did a little mix with the custom sound from Andrzej and Javiers original sound. Here you have javiers rattle sound and Andrzej bass rolling. I also enhanced a bit the deep bass for shaking your moms house.Regards TomA. ask me kindly to remove that sound cause he sees his copyright touched for this breathtaking recording of bass rolling with rythimc tire squeeking.Regards Tom
ARTIK Posted May 13, 2011 Author Report Posted May 13, 2011 Sorry Tobs: My original sound file is available for free but it doesn't mean you have any rights to make corrections in the soundfile and make it available for the public. It's illegal. Could you be so kind and remove this link now? thanks
TOBS Posted May 13, 2011 Report Posted May 13, 2011 Sorry Tobs: My original sound file is available for free but it doesn't mean you have any rights to make corrections in the soundfile and make it available for the public. It's illegal. Could you be so kind and remove this link now? thanks ok I have hundrets of sounds in my cinema audio libs and I did not take your original one what I took was a file with much less of this rythmic skiding tire sound. I do not take this serious - it was just for fun cause I am in the middle of cinema sounddesign - with a lot of jets But cause you ask me so kindly I will remove the link that you can go on selling your breathtaking sounds. regards tom
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