frumpy Posted March 12, 2017 Report Posted March 12, 2017 Besides the CRM which is not too good, why didn't he clean up? VS was well positive, but I don't see any reason why the gear was left down. I mean on a go-around cleaning up the config is right after TOGA, isn't it? Quote
jojo2993 Posted March 12, 2017 Report Posted March 12, 2017 Its the Windshear escape maneuver. As you can see: "Do not change flap or gear config until windshear is no longer a factor" Quote
frumpy Posted March 12, 2017 Author Report Posted March 12, 2017 Thanks! I wonder - whats the rational behind this? Gear out, just in case I get pushed down and hit the surface? Not changing the nose-down drag of the gear, so the nose does not get too high? I mean I can imagine not changing flap position gives a speed margin if the speed drops, but leaving out the gear... hmm. Quote
Morten Posted March 12, 2017 Report Posted March 12, 2017 Jan probably should answer this, but from what I understand, retracting the gear may cause temporary increased drag while the gear doors are open. Quote
Litjan Posted March 12, 2017 Report Posted March 12, 2017 35 minutes ago, frumpy said: Gear out, just in case I get pushed down and hit the surface? That is the reason. Jan 1 Quote
Tom Stian Posted March 12, 2017 Report Posted March 12, 2017 I like this video about how to handle windshear and microburst. That guy have a lot of good lessons for different scenarios. The videos are a bit old, but so are the 733 4 Quote
Morten Posted March 12, 2017 Report Posted March 12, 2017 From FAA advisory on windshear; Quote Maintain flap and gear position until terrain clearance is assured. Although a small performance increase is available after landing gear retraction, initial performance degradation may occur when landing gear doors open for retraction. 1 Quote
Litjan Posted March 13, 2017 Report Posted March 13, 2017 Yes - but this does not apply for the 737 as it has no geardoors that would extend when trying to raise the gear (all gear doors and fairings are already extended when the gear is extended). But I think they also keep the windshear procedures the same to maintain commonality with other types - so transferring to another aircraft would not require to relearn this procedure in such a substantial way. Jan Quote
Morten Posted March 13, 2017 Report Posted March 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Litjan said: Yes - but this does not apply for the 737 as it has no geardoors that would extend when trying to raise the gear (all gear doors and fairings are already extended when the gear is extended). But I think they also keep the windshear procedures the same to maintain commonality with other types - so transferring to another aircraft would not require to relearn this procedure in such a substantial way. Jan Right (except nose gear doors, and there is upwash there..), but also the gear itself will create more drag while being retracted (closer to the fuselage/wing) than extended, causing separation/interference drag etc. and this would take place during the time while the situation might be in it's most critical phase. Even on the 737 you can feel the vibrations (atleast in the cabin) from this just as the gear leaves/enters the wheel well Quote
Litjan Posted March 13, 2017 Report Posted March 13, 2017 Thats true, Morten, I didn´t think about that! Quote
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