Hmm, our xplane10 blog has touched on this issue a fair bit, reflecting general frustration at slow 10 development, and certainly an apparent slowdown in scenery work at least. Tom's got it right, as usual, I reckon that these creations are getting so complex and involved that yeah, it takes a lot longer than people ever realised to do a good, debugged product. Just look at the CRJ. I am convinced that the really successful projects will need multi-person teams. That makes planning a real challenge. I love the constant updates from developers, appreciate their screenshots and little videos like Tom's done. I've now learnt not to get hopes up re. release date & criticise devs for missing them. YOU try it. It's better to be surprised. Besides, just forget the dates keep trying other things as a diversion like I am - Microscopy and FSX, what a great combo :wacko: I'm sure I'm annoying some of you by jumping over to FSX for a diversion. I sincerely hope my efforts assist in speeding up Xplane10 development and release, as I'll be one of the first to join the virtual queue to get it! PS I meant what I said earlier Goran, your Sundowner is leap-years ahead of my FSX Carenado Saratoga.