Fred737

Thanks, I did not know about the apt.dat file, that was the piece of missing info I needed. Looking into this solved an other problem, turns out the Toliss A319 did not had a database problem, it looks if the runway is long enough, if not you can not program the mcdu. I just tried the beta version of gizmo, but It did not solve the gizmo crash. But I leave it like it is for now, before I change things to get worse I am very good at that

Although it is not a problem, I do not like the fact that I can not find the cause (probably because trouble shooting is a big part of my job ) Just a thought, I also have the Hotstart TBM900, this uses Gizmo too. It just is updated and asked if I wanted to upgrade Gizmo to the beta version. Could it be a conflict between 2 Gizmo versions (xplane using the TBM version for the 737) ? An other option, could it be something with the navigation databases, I have a big number of payware planes and some come with a nav database it needs At some point I got a lot of problems with this. I repaired XPlane to get the default one, but some planes did not like that, so I installed the newest I had in custom data. The 737 is fine with that, it seems to know every airport, but f.i the Toliss , Flight Factor and Rotate not. Like in Africa they do not know a lot of airports. But at least they all work for the airports they do know without crashing Xplane or so. I have no subscription and do not fly online so I do not care about not having the latest version, I just want every plane to know all the airports Xplane knows. Do you have tips on how to do that ? There is very little info about this in the xorg forum.

It is normally not as bad as it looks. But thanks to you I found a problem. I have Xorganizer and normally I start that first, choose only plugins I need for the plane or just because I want them, only sceneries I need (and global scenery improvements) and often also only one plane or some type of flying (I have a bunch of preset-profiles). But even fully loaded my FPS is good and everything works fine. But I think I know now what went wrong. I used the wrong profile (for bushflying/heli) But to be sure I now tried my "big tour africa in airliner" profile. Same fault but now no errors in the log file. Only one error and that is the Gizmo error. This is my "minimum" set-up. These are enhancement I will not fly without because they make my Xplane almost as good looking as MSFS2020. (see log.txt ) But to be sure, after that I used my vanilla Xplane profile and only the 737. Still the same problem. (see log2.txt) But again, not a real problem. I can live with that. Log.txt Log2.txt

I just tried it. Spawned, choose preflight: ready to fly (normally I only use cold and dark) , pressed RTE, entered FXMM, pressed pushbutton left of ORIGIN then entered FAWM, pressed the key right from DEST. No response for a couple of seconds and then the same fault message appears. But this time the line numbers are different. They are 2232.192, 2232.199, 2232.200 and 2382.217 The rest is the same. I aborted the flight and included the xplane log file. Maybe that helps. Also info from some other fmc files. No clue if they are useful. But it is not a real problem, I click away the popup and every thing keeps working fine. This is from cycle_info.txt: AIRAC cycle : 2006 Version : 1 Valid (from/to): 21/MAY/2020 - 18/JUN/2020 database.txt: X|2006|21MAY18JUN/20|2005|23APR20MAY/20 fmc_ident.txt [Ident] NavData=AIRAC-1509 OpProgram=AUG20SEP16/15 CoData=NDP-1509 Log.txt

Hi Jan, I just tried through X-aviation but that is still version 1.33. But now I see that In this post from 23 January you talk about the next update so I must learn to read better, Sorry for that. The version I fly is 1.33 and that gives the Gismo crash. The strange thing is that it never did this before. It started just before I opened this topic. I am flying a historic world trip that someone on the org forum made following a French book, I am now in Afrika at leg 87 and it started in an area with very few airports around leg 70 or so, Maybe a hint, here were several airports that my Toliss A319 and FF B767 did not know, while the 737 knew them all. So I fly the 737 the most. I type in the ICAO of the destination in the FMS and nothing happens, then the popup pops-up, I close it and the FMS accepted the input and everything works fine. It happens the most when I type in the destination airport, but yesterday also for the departure airport. It does not happen every flight. I never use the AP so I do not think it is VNAV related, it is all done by manual flying, I do not even use AT. I make a flightplan in littlenavmap, but enter it by hand in the FMS. And I always exit and reboot Xplane if I switch planes.

Thanks Jan, If I understand it right the update is going by mail, any clue when that is going to happen ? Or did the mail got lost on the digital highway ?

Almost every time I want to fill in the destination airport in the FMC I get this screen. The strange thing is that it does not seems to matter. I close it and fly without a single problem. I have not tried the update yet because I do not know how (to lazy to google at this time and the plane works so well that I am a bit afraid to jinx it Thanks to this plane I am completely hooked on flying airliners, I now have a whole bunch (incl Toliss A319, Rotate mad dog, FF767, FJ727 and FJ732 ) But the IXEG is still my favourite airliner. Fred

Thanks, I did not know about the IRS ATT mode. As an EE I thought automatically ATT is attenuation and you need it when you are close to a transmitter but now I learned it stands for Attitude and it turns out an IRS is not a GPS. Very interesting, my main interests in planes is the technical aspect and for most physics and systems. But it is a lot to learn if you only flew GA bushplanes and helicopters without things like route planning (incl weather and fuel) There is a lot of info on the net but because most things are abbreviated it is hard to search and understand if you are new to airliners. I am still practice the bad weather IRF flying and I noticed the plane sometimes during taxi pulls to one side in such a way that I need to use 1 engine, differential brakes and full rudder and full nosewheel tiller only to go straight but often that is not enough. I never had this problem before but also the 727 sometimes reacts this way so it is not the plane. Is this solely caused by cross-wind ? (14 kts crosswind , my heading 55, the wind 300 and I drift to the right) ? It must be this, but a plane is pretty heavy and streamlined, and I would expect the wind to blow the vertical stabiliser to the right, so the plane would pivots to the left . But that could explain why I can turn/pivot left if the speed is zero. On the other hand, real planes fly in much stronger winds.

Sorry, a bit a stupid question. I screwed up major above an amazing bad weather flight above Greenland, Low above snow covered mountains, IFR in a snowstorm, but also in the sun above beautiful cloud formations. Instead of zooming I switched the left IRS to off. I then switched EFI both on 2 and IRS both on R. But now I had no route on the map because I had not programmed the FO's FMS. (could not find a Direct too like in GA GPS). What would a real pilot do: - I can program a fix to the destination point - or type in the whole flightplan in the FO FMS - I know my location because I was flying to a DBN and am now above it. I know the heading to the airfield and so I can hand fly - connect the captains FMS to the right IRS and the EFI back to normal. I did not want to screw this nice trip up, and want to learn to deal the correct way with such a situation. So I pauzed the flight and dived in the books but I can not figure out how to handle this the most realistic.

Strange, the rain effect now works like it should. I made a mistake with the weather-radar tutorial. I started somewhere else much more north and when I was above 5000 ft the raindrops became a lot bigger and looked very much like snow. I really needed the wipers to see something. Very cool. Are there plans (for XP11 ) to add a random faults option to the 737 ? ? I know I can select faults to practice procedures but the thing I like from f.i. the 727 is that random things go wrong, sometimes a lightbulb but last week my gear did not come down because the hydraulic fluid was empty. (to bad I could not find a manual control or an emergency checklist ) This makes it important to really do the checklist. (no fun if you now upfront everything is OK and like new) You talked about Xplane 12, do you know more about that ? I suppose at some moment they will start development but I do not think they implement something as Vulcan and then ditch 11 after a short time for 12. (but maybe they already planned to use Vulcan in 12 and is 11 a sort of unofficial beta trial for 12

Found it, the GTN750 GPS plugin was the problem. I use that only for GA planes so tested this as the last plugin not thinking it would gave problems because I do not use it in the 737. It turns out it is not the plugin itself, but If you open it from the XP plugin menu, it makes a .ini file in the directory of the plane you are flying. It also promotes itself to master-gps. And even if you do not ever use it , as long as the .ini file is there, it stays master. I have not tried it for the 737 but you can disable the master status in the GTN menu and still use it as a slave, I do that in some GA planes. So maybe an option if you want to use in the 737 as a tablet. By the way, now librain is not working, the rain effect of the 737 is not bad but I had never noticed it before because it seems to be only active if I zoom in a little or look from an angle. Not an ideal position during flight (but moving closer does not activate it). It could use some higher drop density (maybe add some layers over each other ) but it looks pretty realistic. It could be a nice base for a librain replacement. The only thing I really miss in Vulcan.

Thanks Jan for always answering so fast. If you had more planes I would buy them :-) I just tried it, yesterday evening I had to much fun trying to fly your weather radar tutorial flight (I lost my way and flew into the ground but I really enjoyed it) So I now just tried it with all custom scenery, plugins and other aircraft switched off, (except lua) and now it works fine, so it must be some conflict between plugins or so. Next step finding the guilty one, not hard but a bit time consuming.

Solved the sound, if I move all XP sliders to zero all your sliders work fine. A big improvement, the "irritating" high amplitude hiss turned out to be the AC and now I can turn it down a bit. The VOR problem is still a problem. I started the plane as "ready to fly" just to be sure, If I then set everything up like you the result is the same but the problem is that if I turn the course on the MCP on the FO side the magenta bar in the FO HSI moves out of the centre like it should do. If I do that on the captain site, nothing happens, the magenta bar does not move and always keeps aligned with the crossbar. I think I know more or less how to use it because I navigate like this in the FlyJsim 727 and most times I do arrive at the planned airport. The 2 needles in the DME meter do point in the correct position. If I change the radio frequency the DME meter needle position changes but nothing happens on the HSI, crossbar and magenta bar do not react. So I think my radio is not switching over, I can repair a real one but not a virtual one Maybe some plugin problem, tonight I will try it with everything switched off (very easy thanks to Xorganizer) I do not have a navigraph subscription so I use the default database AIRAC 1509 acording to the FMS in the 737 (on some planes 1702 and 1707 because those came with the planes. I included the log file from the test, maybe you see something strange. The plane behaves for the rest always very nice. I reboot XP when I change planes. I have several studylevel planes and rebooting XP solves a lot of problems. Log.txt

3 things: 1) Practicing oldschool VOR navigation, I found a problem. If I switch the HSI to VOR/ILS I only get it to work for the captain if I set the EFI switch to "both on 2" , In the "normal" position only the FO HSI works like it should , in "both on 1" none of them work like they should, In "normal" The captains HSI pointer does work but states "from" (when it should be to) when the FO's states "to" and the magenta "bar" in the pilots HSI always stays aligned, while the FO's bar moves lateral like it should. I must be doing something wrong but no clue what. I had both nav radios on the same frequency and HSI switches the same. In most planes I have a nav/gps switch but I can not find one here. The answer is maybe somewhere in the tutorials but I can not find it. The HSI VOR function does work in the MAP mode so the radio part must be set up correct. 2) I have bought Trafic Global, this has the XP11.41 TCAS function. As far as I know this is shows other planes on the weather or terrain radar (or both) This is from the manual: Some aircraft, and some external tools, provide a TCAS (Traffic Collision Avoidance System) feature. Traffic Global supports this feature for both X-Plane 11.41 and 11.50, which use very different methods to achieve this. The TCAS option is available in the “Settings” dialog and does not require X-Plane to be restarted. Does this work on the 737 ? If so, how ? 3) Found a "bug" The master volume slider in the bump menu controls only the aircraft exterior, aircraft interior and environmental sliders from Xplane's own sound menu. Not the master slider (that also does no longer work if the 737 is loaded) The cockpit sound volume slider does exact the same thing as the bump-menu master slider. (regulate those 3 sliders) and the airco slider seems top do nothing. (regarding xplanes own sliders) Besides that, if I move the cockpit volume down, and then the airco too, the cockpit slider goes to max, but not always and sometimes it works just the way around moving the airco slider opposite from the cockpit sound slider. Could this be, like the views menu, a XP10 Heritage ? Fred

Update: the fuelmeter, could it be this lines in the afc file ? Test mode at 0 ? GROUP Fuel gauge 3 SHOW_LESS 2.000000 [0] SHOW_EQUAL 0.000000 [0] SHOW_GREATER 0.000000 ixeg/733/fuel/fuel_test_mode[0] I opened the AFC in notepad to set experimental to 1 (faster as using planemaker) and then noticed this

Hi Jan, The speed problem is solved,. The original settings for the throttle quadrant curves were screwed up. I use the "has reverse/beta" but found a "bug" in XP. I have 6 axis for throttle quadrant. I was experimenting with the settings using 1 spare axis (see first post). It turns out If you set the throttle #1 to "none" or VV and then use a spare axis for throttle #1 and later go back to the original axis for throttle #1 the checkbox is now uncheckt but the curve does not change (and on top of it, rechecking it messes up the original settings). I asked you because you are good in explaining, and I learned the airliner basis from your tutorials. (dive-bombing techniques or other things the flying cowboys do in stol planes is strange enough not handy in an airliner. I now search for nice 300-400 nm trips and then do the whole planning and programming FMS thing, and I like it. And in the future I will expand it step by step to include weather, fuel planning, ATC (if I can get that to work), more serious vertical navigation, etc, but first mastering AP so I can use that for short periods in flight if I want to check things, do ATC or prepare a descent etc. Damn, my pressious 737 changed me from divebombing stol pilot to virtual airliner I can now set throttle for the 737 over the whole range without strange non lineair throttle curves and it flies like a dream again. BTW I fly the IXEG with EFM turned on from the first flight. The Toliss uses normal flight model (forced) and rechecking the beta tickbox and correcting the curves solved it. The original problem was me, because I did not understand the alternate and normal law (and the protections, go to fast, pitch up, until I hit space :-) ) That made me looking for the EMF and throttle curves because I read somewhere the biggest difference for EFM is drag related (so speed). And so messing up things for my other airliners too. (instead of idle the throttle now was at 40% in the idle position)

Hi Jan, Thanks, I have studied your videos that belong to the plane but did not know the others. I think my "problem" could be related to the flightmodel. I use experimental for all planes but learned recently that nowadays I have to uncheck that as default because the developer needs to check that option in the AFC file if his plane needs the experimental model switched on. I looked at almost all my planes and only 2 have checked the experimental flymode to on. So I will uncheck the EFM in the general settings and see if that gives an improvement. BTW in the IXEG 737 the EMF option is not turned on, but I read somewhere on this forum the plane does need the EFM turner on. BTW2 There is a test button next to the fuel meters, in a video it worked but in my planer it does not work.

From Jan's video I am learning to fly looking at the HSI instead of only the vertical speed meter. Now I have a "problem" I only do handfying without autopilot and without auto-throttle (except in the IXEG where I am not in a permanent state of war with the auto throttle ) I fly for most the IXEG 737, Tolliss A319, FF 767 and FF A350 but befor the IXEG I only flew bush planes and helis so still new on airliners, navigation etc I have problems keeping the speed down. By throttle did not work until I changed the curves of my Saitek throttle units. 25% for reverse and alpha, around 40% idle then a very flat low angle curve for normal operation and the last 20% steep up to full. But when I have everything under control (decending at a constant speed, so a stabilized approach, (but also during cruise flying like a jojo going up and down between AT and manual idle . If I manages to keep it stabilised, the HSI sits around 10-15 degrees, even during descent. I found the replay option this week and started looking the landings and then noticed how much angle upped I flew. That is why I addapted the throttle curves but that can not be the right way. Others fly well using normal throttle. If I look from a physics point of view, I think I have to much thrust and the high pitch delivers enough drag to keep the speed down (like a kite) . I must find a way to set the correct angle (5 degrees up ? ) using pitch and then use throttle to get the VS zero for cruise. But that makes things pretty complicated, for most using autothrottle, and if there are speed restrictions like under 5000 ft or during descent/approach and landing. In what order do I operate thrust, pitch and speed ?

Yes, I have avitab, use it a lot. But I also have two monitor, one for Xplane, the other for things like pdfs (and youtube tutorials )

Thanks, that is the problem indeed. I made a pdf with all documents merged I think I flipped it to fit the pdf. I will flip it back. I also made a pdf that is based on your first FMS tutorial and added screenshots of the route to it and things like all headings, altitudes and speeds. All nav data settings in red so I can scan those fast during flight (and blue for things like gear up etc)

How can I turn the checklist so I can read it. Also maybe related, I can not use the programmed views, if I do it, it works but as soon as I combine it with the keybindings that XP has (I have them bound to hardware switches) the view angle changes. f.i If I use the 737's FO views, this works fine, but if I then choose my default view to go back ( saved view#5) I get the saved view but the view-angle goes down to 50 degrees (instead my default 90 degrees) Not a problem because I always use the hardware switches but just to let you know.

Finally made it. Only got the wrong runway. The ILS guided me right but I did not trusted it 100% because I do not yet know how to see if I captured the glideslope. So I took no risk and landed on the one that was best visible. This is a very nice route. During day and night. You are right it is very rewarding if everything comes together. I used the MCP and the banana even more as your tutorial states, very handy but also very cool. I had a smile wider as the wingspan of my 737 when I reached the right waypoint with the right speed and the right altitude. Only thing that is a real problem, as soon as I use even a small amount of rudder with extended flaps the plane start to roll aggressive from left to right with increasing bank-angle. If I am fast enough to get my flaps totally up, it stops but most times it ends in a crash. (I have no pedals because I lay down while flying), I use the "butterfly" of my thrustmaster TWCS as rudder, a honeycomb yoke, 2 logitec throttle units and a diy switchpanel (30 keys in a 5x6 matrix)for things like autopilot, 2 sliding potentiometers for brakes and a normal potentiometer for elevator trim. Flaps are also bound to an axis (most right lever of throttle unit like in the real one, most left is speedbrake,. First picture half way the decent, the other after landing (I know, not on the centreline) No, this is not MSFS2020

Thanks Jan, that helped, almost made it this time. Holding altitude is tricky, this beast climbs pretty fast but I am becoming better at it. Holding speed is tricky too, but I am becoming better at that too. Next step is try to hold both at the same time I would never have thought flying an airliner can be so much fun and also so much work. Flew it every day a few hours and I have not even reached the cold and dark level. This is very good for my aviation skills and a lot of fun learning. This really is a great study-level plane. This is the first time I wonder how it feels to fly the real thing, must be wonderful to unleash that power and control such a huge plane. Fred

I try to fly the basic fms tutorial and I get stuck while programming the CDU. (page 8) This key does not want to light up. If I load a flightplan made in little navmap (that supports the coroute fileformat of this plane) the switch does work, so I must do something wrong or the tutorial is not updated to the rewritten CDU. If I just ignore it I can fly the route but not much succes, I found the destination and landed both times but non of the flight director/dme/ils etc seam to be correct. But I am new in old school navigation so I probably read things wrong. But just to be sure I want to ask if this could be related to the exec key "problem" or I am just doing it wrong. Fred

It must be a lot, if you see movies where they break a window or open a door in flight, you see, besides passengers, always a whole lot of paper sucked out of the plane.... Sergio, that is a nice collection of books. PDFs are great if they are OCR. Then you can use ctrl-f to find keywords very fast. But an original paper one is very cool to have. I would like to have a real classic headset like the greenish ones you see a lot in videos about real helicopters. But even a used one is very expensive and there is always a change it is not comfortable. (worn out rubber or just not the right shape for my ears)