[Aircraft accelerates past speed restriction in holding with VNAV speed control]

I think very few people/pilots uses magenta speed (VNAV) the whole flight, in hold i go for cyan speed and also from below FL100 till landing

 

cheers

[Need Help for Ubuntu setup]

7 minutes ago, kecm80 said:

That's the solution!!!!

Many many thanks!

 

 

# How to use:
#   1. Copy this file into the aircraft directory of the CL-650 and rename it to XMidiCtrl.toml
#   2. Adjust the port_in and port_out variables
#   3. Start X-Plane or reload the profile from the plugin menu XMidiCtrl -> Reload Aircraft Profile

And again I didn't read all the things I had to read 

 

 

[Need Help for Ubuntu setup]

That's the solution!!!!

Many many thanks!

 

 

[Need Help for Ubuntu setup]

Since I'm experiencing better and smoother flight experience under Linux, I'm trying to set-up my used-to configuration as on my Windows boot, everything works fine except 2 things, ActiveSky XP (no Linux support so no question here) and XMidiCtrl.

Last one is correctly installed, since i get this log:

2022-03-26 16:13:55   [ALL]     Plugin XMidiCtrl 0.62 loaded successfully
2022-03-26 16:13:55   [INFO]    Plugin enabled
2022-03-26 16:14:12   [INFO]    Aircraft Profile '/home/mik/X-Plane 11/Aircraft/X-Aviation/CL650/XMidiCtrl.toml' found
2022-03-26 16:14:12   [INFO]    Sublayer mode is active
2022-03-26 16:14:12   [INFO]    1 Device(s) found in aircraft profile
2022-03-26 16:14:12   [INFO]    Created new MIDI device :: Name = 'Behringer X-Touch Mini', Port In = '0', Port Out = '1'
2022-03-26 16:14:12   [INFO]    Device 0 :: 97 inbound mapping(s) found
2022-03-26 16:14:12   [INFO]    Device 0 :: 12 outbound mapping(s) found
2022-03-26 16:14:12   [INFO]    Inbound port '0' opened for device 'Behringer X-Touch Mini'
2022-03-26 16:14:12   [INFO]    Outbound port '1' opened for device 'Behringer X-Touch Mini'

but I can't make my midi bar to work, it shows only outbound messages, like warning light flashing, but key press is not registered. Do I have to feed-in a proper template? If yes how can i do it since the Behringer software is Windows only? Do i need additional libraries?

mik@PC:~$ aconnect -i
client 0: 'System' [type=kernel]
    0 'Timer           '
    1 'Announce        '
client 14: 'Midi Through' [type=kernel]
    0 'Midi Through Port-0'
client 20: 'X-TOUCH MINI' [type=kernel,card=1]
    0 'X-TOUCH MINI MIDI 1'
client 129: 'RtMidi Output Client' [type=utente,pid=6104]
    0 'RtMidi Output   '
mik@PC:~$ 

 

 

many thanks

[Little NavMap CL-650 Performance]

you can create a new aircraft performance simply by flying the plane and record data via little navmap, maybe do a NO WINDS flight,  a 400-500NM trip should be good enough to get all that data

[FPS issue LINUX]

ok so no support, thanks indeed

[FPS issue LINUX]

Hi,

I'm experiencing low performance running the Challenger in Linux OS, since I have a spare hdd and want to test how Xplane is performing under non-Windows OS i did a fresh Ubuntu 20.04lts installation, followed by a fresh X-Plane 11 install with only FlyWithLua plugin. After setting-up my sim like I did on Windows I was enthusiast about performances, but once loading the most epic addon for Xplane, the CL650, my happiness went back. With my HW I can't get above 20-25 FPS. 

So I tried to install more aircraft and do more testing since I have no performance reference under ubuntu. Installed the TBM900 with very good results, 60-70FPS, the same with the 737Zibo (FPS looking forward CAVOK weather, no benchmarks run). Before claiming about issue I would like to know if the CL650 is in fact so heavy on my HW, but looking to other addons and how they run smoothly, I think something is wrong with my platform.

 

i7 6700k / 16GB RAM / XFX RX480 8GB

of course OpenGL

Screenshot and LOGs

thanks

[Wing covered with ice even when positive temp]

hi Philippe, 

 

there are a lot of threads on this forum about this issue, long story short they're going to fix this shortly, it's due because of rapid weather change when your weather injection tool loads up just after new flight is loaded (or something like this) 

[Special FMS entries]

hi, 

 

using FIX page, you put PYE than your radial

 

[Vac below Vref?]

hahaha, sorry for my useless answer but want just to say that there are thousands of Vspeeds and i think V1 Vr V2 and Vref, and maybe Vref +20, or 10 are all speeds we need to care about.  So a difference by 1 (and of a total of 122) between two speed that should be the same i wouldn't give to much account, maybe some kind of computed approximation. in your case Vac should be 129 as written in papers

 

ps: there are sop's that uses Vref -10 for GA speed (VAC) so i'm really confused about all these speeds

 

[Hot Star Challenger 650 Turning Radius]

yes, i use my twist for rudder and nose wheel steering 

 

what hardware do you have? 

[Sometimes Can't Reach V1 for Takeoff]

hi, actually the OAT can be good but your wings can be in icing condition, yesterday happened to me a similar kind of thing. 

exiting from FBO i noticed that my wings are iced, i set up my plane and took off, (without deicing just for experimental purpose) or better to say i tried, the bird accelerated quite as normal but around V2 no more speed increase and of course no positive climb with column pulled all the way back, overrun runway threshold by a lot.

As for the xplane data output only main wing left and right was iced, 0.480 and 0.500, OAT 9°C and no colder than 6°C since shut down airplane 12 hours before. This maybe because i injected weather after loading my flight (ASXP weather plugin as talked about in other thread in this forum) so i think it can be due to icing conditions like you said. 

So if you're using weather injection tools make sure to load it before starting your flight in xplane. 

 

 

[Hot Star Challenger 650 Turning Radius]

hi,

for convenience tiller is connected to rudder axis in almost all xplane addons, so check your rudder setup in the joystick settings in xplane. And on what hardware are we talking about?

Then remember not to taxi to fast or your nose gear will drift

[TOD]

hi, 

 

MFD DATA, then MFD MENU, here you select what to show, on flight plane page you will see your next waypoints, in green there is your TOD, NM and predicted time. 

 

 

ps:  MFD ADV button to change page, be sure to select left or right mfd

[FD during ILS approach not accurately showing the requested movements]

13 hours ago, rjb4000 said:

The reason for this is because when the nose is pulled up initially, the airplane is on glide path so the FD has nothing to command. It’s essentially saying “whatever you’re doing, keep doing it”.

Until the airplane actually gets off glide path, all the FD pitch command is going to do is “stay the course” which could mean adjusting the airplane’s pitch several degrees, for example, during a flap configuration change. 

Let’s say you’re on glide path and you add flaps and lower the nose to maintain descent rate. You wouldn’t want the FD to stay at the original pitch command, you’d want the FD to follow the nose. 
 

that's a good explanation, thanks! 

[FD during ILS approach not accurately showing the requested movements]

10 hours ago, Graeme_77 said:

Pitch for speed is not really a good way to fly a jet! Thrust for speed, pitch for glidepath. It's not a Cessna ;-)

For the OP: Blind FD landing with self-induced LOC and GS deviation. https://streamable.com/qq4nq7
 

Hi, 

 

Since first flight with the CL650 i noticed a slightly different behaviour of the FD, i'm slowly getting used, but I still have trouble on a "weird" SID departure because i easily overshoot lateral path. On approach, even ILS or RNAV or whatever, i know where the runway is so i can precisely decide how much input give to the ailerons, but on a departure it's a little bit tricky for me since i feel like the FD is following me instead viceversa. Feels like the FD is a bit lazy and not in the right mood to direct me. 

what i'm referring to is clearly shown on you video in the precise moment when you disengage AP and pull the column, the horizontal line of the FD is rising quit a bit. From 0° up to 5° nose up the FD is following you instead of remaining "on glide path" or at least remaining fixed, then it start to follow your oscillations up and down. That's what i'm referring at, but like i said before, on approach, if not severe imc condition, i can survive, but not on a departure whatching the vertical lines rubbering around my path. 

The SID i'm practising more is the BEG6Q out of LIME RW28 and the FD, expecially the vertical line induce me to fly like an alpin skier. 

This is just what i noticed about the CL650 FD, and i'm not saying it's wrong modeled or what else, i'm just saying that i clearly saw FD's on the sim market that more suit my aviation ignorance 

 

 

[Yellow half circle my aileron in FLT page.]

hi, in my case no, i tried to move surfaces whith hydraulic system off and wasn't able to replicate since i no longer see this "bug" 

one time it showed up after sps test, and pulling CB out did not resolved, got half corcle on both sides

on time only left but sincerely can't remember when it lit on

[FMC Fuel Reserves]

hi,

 

you can change it in default 1/5 page in the FMS

 

IDX-2nd PAGE-DEFAULTS

[Yellow half circle my aileron in FLT page.]

hi, take a look back, there are 2 other threads talking about the half circle, as far as i know it appears with no reason since in the failure menu ther was no active one, happend to me 2 times

[How to use ext power (AC and DC?)]

and while refueling i suggest you to keep left tank few seconds more closed than the right one (make sure fuel truck is pumping)

i usually count 10 seconds, then reopen left valve. this give me a balanced fuel level on wings after a 30-40 min APU run (from first start to runway entry) 

 

[AMD GPU Vulkan flicker.]

i tried everything without success, even a complete clean windows installation, ddu driver cleaner, dozen of amd drivers, amerineZ custom drivers, 2 linux distro even with mesa drivers, now i'm simming  in opengl at 25fps on Windows 10.

and for sure i will never buy an amd product again in my life, i can still remember couple years ago while choosing between a gtx 1060 or rx480 and got the last one only because vulkan was the future and AMD was ahead. in fact turning vulkan on i jump from 25fps to a 45-50fps and it's a huge improvement, a whole world of improvement but cannot flying cl650 with those flickering screens. so now i really don't know what is going on, I have 3 FF products, 2 flyjsim, ixeg, concorde, 2 hotstart and a dozen of free aircraft and got flickering only with the tbm9 and cl650. 

and last month since i really enjoy the cl650 i fly all the time in opengl without vatsim (disconnecting when got <20fps) but for sure i can say fu** you amd and fu** you cryptominers

[VSpeeds Deselected error]

i got VSPEEDS deselected error one time and got crazy, i figured it out that in the takeoff page, where you put wind, oat and QNH, the last one, QNH was at the right value but not inserted by me. i think you have to put your QNH value in via scratchpad even if it's showing correctly (and you will notice that the font is changing) 

 

bb

[Glitch on Ground]

when i'm experiencing weird issues i use my second copy of xplane installed on same hard disk drive

just copy and paste xplane 11 folder, delete everything in the output folder, delete any non standard custom scenery and delete any resources plugin, run xplane 11 updater than install your aircraft and try to fly. 

adding your favorite plugins one by one (or 2) and see if your glitch is reproduce 

are you running on vulkan? try also opengl, have a friend that got glitches like tearing-stuttering running nvidia on vulkan

 

[VNAV]

2 hours ago, Graeme_77 said:

@kecm80It's just an airplane - it flies on pitch/power like everything else. That chart is only giving you some approximate pitch/power datums to help you fly the aircraft. You can descend using VFLC if you want - that will give you an idle descent and will obey the constraints, but managing the profile will be your responsibility.

thanks Graeme, i really love this plane and the simulation level it brings to xplane, finding more information isn't easy since every company has it own Sop's.

So you (team) were experiencing a lot of questions from users and 99% of the time is not a figner point to the quality of the CL650 but simply a newbie question. And to be transparent I like to say that dev team should not answer like "the challenger is doing exactly like this" or other answers similar, but taking some time to answer is well appreciated. Appreciated like your YT videos since they're a masterpiece of explanation.  (still waiting the last felis 747 one :P) 

 

thanks

[VNAV]

7 hours ago, Pils said:

No, it’s not like an Airbus or Boeing. It targets a fixed FPA, respecting constraints otherwise, and that’s it.

ok thanks, was referring to the cl650 operation reference pdf but in some other documents found on the web there is another way to descend not using VPATH, thanks indeed for your explanation